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	<description>Not just another Thyroid site</description>
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		<title>By: april</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2006/04/25/hahahaha/#comment-7439</link>
		<dc:creator>april</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 06:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank I have a feeling you are a very frustrated doctor who feels threatened by us and by this website. If you are a doctor, and 10 years from now you want to STILL be a PRACTICING doctor here's some advice: L-I-S-T-E-N to your patients!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank I have a feeling you are a very frustrated doctor who feels threatened by us and by this website. If you are a doctor, and 10 years from now you want to STILL be a PRACTICING doctor here&#8217;s some advice: L-I-S-T-E-N to your patients!</p>
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		<title>By: April Reed</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2006/04/25/hahahaha/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>April Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Just wanted to add my 2 cents, you can bet your bottom dollar Frank is a doctor. I have been a nurse for 26 years and I can tell this man is loyal to the almighty drug companies.
I thank God I found this site, I was diagnosed 1 year ago as hypo and put on synthroid , along with zoloft, and high dose motrin for aches and pains. It is a racket as you have described to put $$$$$$$$$$$$ in the drug companies pockets.
I feel better and have regained my life since starting Armour.
The sad reality is- doctors are taking the older patients who have been on Armour for years, off of it and putting them on synthroid. They are told it is far superior to Armour and it makes me just want to scream NO IT ISN't!!!!
Thanks again for a truely enlightening website.
April</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Just wanted to add my 2 cents, you can bet your bottom dollar Frank is a doctor. I have been a nurse for 26 years and I can tell this man is loyal to the almighty drug companies.<br />
I thank God I found this site, I was diagnosed 1 year ago as hypo and put on synthroid , along with zoloft, and high dose motrin for aches and pains. It is a racket as you have described to put $$$$$$$$$$$$ in the drug companies pockets.<br />
I feel better and have regained my life since starting Armour.<br />
The sad reality is- doctors are taking the older patients who have been on Armour for years, off of it and putting them on synthroid. They are told it is far superior to Armour and it makes me just want to scream NO IT ISN&#8217;t!!!!<br />
Thanks again for a truely enlightening website.<br />
April</p>
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		<title>By: Titiu Nylund</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2006/04/25/hahahaha/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Titiu Nylund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 14:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehehe...I think Frank wasn't expecting such a huge amount of responses to his message *chuckles* 

Aaaw...i so love you guys! really! *hugs you all!*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehehe&#8230;I think Frank wasn&#8217;t expecting such a huge amount of responses to his message *chuckles* </p>
<p>Aaaw&#8230;i so love you guys! really! *hugs you all!*</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2006/04/25/hahahaha/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 06:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank,

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, you sound suspicious to me, you just might be a doc, just my intuition!

Anyways, anything that is synthetic, be it meds or food, we all should run away from it!

Dessicated thyroid is all we had decades ago and it worked, and yes, why the need for synthetic thyroid?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

It is all about the bottom dollar baby!

I think that I have made my point!

Elaine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,</p>
<p>Hmmmmmmmmmmm, you sound suspicious to me, you just might be a doc, just my intuition!</p>
<p>Anyways, anything that is synthetic, be it meds or food, we all should run away from it!</p>
<p>Dessicated thyroid is all we had decades ago and it worked, and yes, why the need for synthetic thyroid?</p>
<p>$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$</p>
<p>It is all about the bottom dollar baby!</p>
<p>I think that I have made my point!</p>
<p>Elaine</p>
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		<title>By: kristie</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2006/04/25/hahahaha/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>kristie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We hypothryoid folks just want proper treatment to get back to our lives.  I'm tired of being compared to cocaine or heroin users.  

Docs throw anti-depressants at me with no blood test to prove I need them, but I can't get enough thryoid meds because of the TSH test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We hypothryoid folks just want proper treatment to get back to our lives.  I&#8217;m tired of being compared to cocaine or heroin users.  </p>
<p>Docs throw anti-depressants at me with no blood test to prove I need them, but I can&#8217;t get enough thryoid meds because of the TSH test.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2006/04/25/hahahaha/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 14:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, you didn't read first.  I love this site.  Too bad I didn't find it before I trusted ALL the doctors that missed my high TSH for years and all the symptoms that were in my head and wanted to treat me with anti-crap drugs.  In the past 8 months I have seen 4 different doctors and 1 was a top Endo in in the Country.  Not one would try T3 in any form.  I now take Armour and it has SAVED me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, you didn&#8217;t read first.  I love this site.  Too bad I didn&#8217;t find it before I trusted ALL the doctors that missed my high TSH for years and all the symptoms that were in my head and wanted to treat me with anti-crap drugs.  In the past 8 months I have seen 4 different doctors and 1 was a top Endo in in the Country.  Not one would try T3 in any form.  I now take Armour and it has SAVED me.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindi Straughn</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2006/04/25/hahahaha/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindi Straughn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 01:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one more thing Frank might want to look into....was Synthroid ever proven to actually BE effective or superior to the desiccated thyroid extract that had been in use safely and effectively for decades?  you know...an actual study about well-being and health and not just a making the lab number look good?  and Frank might want to ask himself why a "synthetic" product was even made if something was working already?  hmmm...could it have to do with not being able to make money off of a non-patented thyroid extract?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one more thing Frank might want to look into&#8230;.was Synthroid ever proven to actually BE effective or superior to the desiccated thyroid extract that had been in use safely and effectively for decades?  you know&#8230;an actual study about well-being and health and not just a making the lab number look good?  and Frank might want to ask himself why a &#8220;synthetic&#8221; product was even made if something was working already?  hmmm&#8230;could it have to do with not being able to make money off of a non-patented thyroid extract?</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2006/04/25/hahahaha/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, do you have evidence that your claims are true?  That the advice here is dangerous?  That people are actually dying or becoming very sick from this advice?  Do you have evidence that someone has had a heart attack or died from taking Armour?

There appears to be evidence here that it is TRUE that people are recovering with dessicated thyroid hormones when T4 only meds did nothing for them. The evidence is in their stories and their changed lives!   Listening to patients is what many  doctors no longer do.. lab values are much more important to most of them.  Maybe YOU are a doctor who barely listens to his patients and goes more by lab values??  A doctor is a service..we pay you.  We will not pay a doctor who won't help us.  We will find another one who will and and I am finding more and more that this is a growing grassroots movement..our voices will be heard one way or another.

  We as patients are crying out for doctors to LISTEN to us.  We don't want to be told yet again that we are eating too much, exercising too little and just getting old.  When our brains are so fogged over from undertreated hypothyroidism that we no longer care anymore, don't you think that there might be something wrong EVEN though the TSH is 'normal'??

You say Armour is unproven?  It has been in use for over 100 years!! How much more proof do you need that it has worked for people?  I say the stability of Synthroid and other T4 only meds is much more in question than the stability of Armour!  Look up the statistics and recalls..

This site is all about Natural Thyroid, not 'other options'.  If you want a site with options, why don't you start one?

P.S. Heroine should be spelled Heroin and you use the word pray and should have used prey.  

Missy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, do you have evidence that your claims are true?  That the advice here is dangerous?  That people are actually dying or becoming very sick from this advice?  Do you have evidence that someone has had a heart attack or died from taking Armour?</p>
<p>There appears to be evidence here that it is TRUE that people are recovering with dessicated thyroid hormones when T4 only meds did nothing for them. The evidence is in their stories and their changed lives!   Listening to patients is what many  doctors no longer do.. lab values are much more important to most of them.  Maybe YOU are a doctor who barely listens to his patients and goes more by lab values??  A doctor is a service..we pay you.  We will not pay a doctor who won&#8217;t help us.  We will find another one who will and and I am finding more and more that this is a growing grassroots movement..our voices will be heard one way or another.</p>
<p>  We as patients are crying out for doctors to LISTEN to us.  We don&#8217;t want to be told yet again that we are eating too much, exercising too little and just getting old.  When our brains are so fogged over from undertreated hypothyroidism that we no longer care anymore, don&#8217;t you think that there might be something wrong EVEN though the TSH is &#8216;normal&#8217;??</p>
<p>You say Armour is unproven?  It has been in use for over 100 years!! How much more proof do you need that it has worked for people?  I say the stability of Synthroid and other T4 only meds is much more in question than the stability of Armour!  Look up the statistics and recalls..</p>
<p>This site is all about Natural Thyroid, not &#8216;other options&#8217;.  If you want a site with options, why don&#8217;t you start one?</p>
<p>P.S. Heroine should be spelled Heroin and you use the word pray and should have used prey.  </p>
<p>Missy</p>
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		<title>By: Ancient Mariner</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2006/04/25/hahahaha/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Ancient Mariner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, 

Are you a thyroid patient? A doctor, maybe? I'm afraid you have this all wrong. This website offers people hope where previously there was none. The people who come to this website have been suffering, many for years, all the while being told by their doctors that their labs are normal, and that proves there's nothing wrong with them. 

This website offers an alternative to the diagnosis and subsequent "standard of care" for thyroid problems, and gives patients knowledge about ALL alternatives, not just those their doctors promote. 

Diagnosis by symptoms has been replaced with diagnosis by labs. Proven treatments that were used for more than 100 years have been thrown out the window in favor of "new and improved", synthetic treatments.  

Because natural substances cannot be patented, and therefore cannot be profited from, the pharmaceutical industry has promoted their new, synthetic thyroid hormones by bad-mouthing the competition, reminiscent of political battles. They have publicized untruths about natural thyroid hormones, and covered up the fact that their products are less stable and less effective than natural products.  

In the 40 years since Synthroid and the TSH test became popular, there have been new diseases created (fibromyalgia, high cholesterol, osteoporosis, chronic fatigue syndrome, to name a few) to describe the effects of undertreated thyroid issues. These new diseases also make it possible for the pharmaceutical industry to sell more new drugs than ever before. They even reward doctors who prescribe these drugs.

Read the recommended books. Check out the websites. Look at the studies done 100 years ago. Open your mind, Frank!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, </p>
<p>Are you a thyroid patient? A doctor, maybe? I&#8217;m afraid you have this all wrong. This website offers people hope where previously there was none. The people who come to this website have been suffering, many for years, all the while being told by their doctors that their labs are normal, and that proves there&#8217;s nothing wrong with them. </p>
<p>This website offers an alternative to the diagnosis and subsequent &#8220;standard of care&#8221; for thyroid problems, and gives patients knowledge about ALL alternatives, not just those their doctors promote. </p>
<p>Diagnosis by symptoms has been replaced with diagnosis by labs. Proven treatments that were used for more than 100 years have been thrown out the window in favor of &#8220;new and improved&#8221;, synthetic treatments.  </p>
<p>Because natural substances cannot be patented, and therefore cannot be profited from, the pharmaceutical industry has promoted their new, synthetic thyroid hormones by bad-mouthing the competition, reminiscent of political battles. They have publicized untruths about natural thyroid hormones, and covered up the fact that their products are less stable and less effective than natural products.  </p>
<p>In the 40 years since Synthroid and the TSH test became popular, there have been new diseases created (fibromyalgia, high cholesterol, osteoporosis, chronic fatigue syndrome, to name a few) to describe the effects of undertreated thyroid issues. These new diseases also make it possible for the pharmaceutical industry to sell more new drugs than ever before. They even reward doctors who prescribe these drugs.</p>
<p>Read the recommended books. Check out the websites. Look at the studies done 100 years ago. Open your mind, Frank!</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 12:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, have you actually read this site?  Doctors who believe that Armour comes from cows and horses?  Who belittle people who are ill simply because they are incapable of simple CLINICAL diagnosis?

I can see signs of hypothyroid in so MANY people every day, yet they go undiagnosed or undertreated because the TSH says they're not hypo.  When the TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone, produced by a healthy pituitary) is used as a way to determine the TYPE of hypothyroid that someone has rather than WHETHER they're hypo at all, THEN I will respect the knowledge of the medical community.  When they are able to make a clinical diagnosis based on signs and symptoms, rather than be totally dependent on little black marks on a piece of paper called "lab results," then I will respect the knowledge of the medical community.  When doctors also diagnose and treat adrenal insufficiency based on signs and symptoms (with the addition of APPROPRIATE lab results) and treat it BEFORE beginning treatment with ANY thyroid hormone source, then I will respect the knowledge of the medical community.  When people are prescribed ENOUGH of the right thyroid medication that works with THEIR body, so that they are healthy and don't need umpteen other meds to treat hypo symptoms, then I will respect the medical community.

And Frank?  I think you meant that we "prey" on sick people, not that we "pray" on them.  People may be prayed over or prayed for, but never prayed on--unless it is a child sitting on someone's lap.  I think I've made it clear that it is obvious to me that it is the medical community that preys on sick people, for profit and their own gain.  It makes me sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, have you actually read this site?  Doctors who believe that Armour comes from cows and horses?  Who belittle people who are ill simply because they are incapable of simple CLINICAL diagnosis?</p>
<p>I can see signs of hypothyroid in so MANY people every day, yet they go undiagnosed or undertreated because the TSH says they&#8217;re not hypo.  When the TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone, produced by a healthy pituitary) is used as a way to determine the TYPE of hypothyroid that someone has rather than WHETHER they&#8217;re hypo at all, THEN I will respect the knowledge of the medical community.  When they are able to make a clinical diagnosis based on signs and symptoms, rather than be totally dependent on little black marks on a piece of paper called &#8220;lab results,&#8221; then I will respect the knowledge of the medical community.  When doctors also diagnose and treat adrenal insufficiency based on signs and symptoms (with the addition of APPROPRIATE lab results) and treat it BEFORE beginning treatment with ANY thyroid hormone source, then I will respect the knowledge of the medical community.  When people are prescribed ENOUGH of the right thyroid medication that works with THEIR body, so that they are healthy and don&#8217;t need umpteen other meds to treat hypo symptoms, then I will respect the medical community.</p>
<p>And Frank?  I think you meant that we &#8220;prey&#8221; on sick people, not that we &#8220;pray&#8221; on them.  People may be prayed over or prayed for, but never prayed on&#8211;unless it is a child sitting on someone&#8217;s lap.  I think I&#8217;ve made it clear that it is obvious to me that it is the medical community that preys on sick people, for profit and their own gain.  It makes me sick.</p>
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