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		<title>By: marie</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/06/02/trying-the-newly-formulated-armour/comment-page-2/#comment-145964</link>
		<dc:creator>marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am totally getting it on pay day!!  I understand what you are saying I just really hope this armour is the real deal.  Keep on with the fight for all of us.  I am really frustrated that none of the doctor&#039;s at Cleveland Clinic will even listen to anything I say from your site.  They are the doctor with the experience, paid the student loans, we know nothing.   That is why all I need is the book and I will have to lie to two different doctors and play the game to get more of the armour so I can up my doses myself.  Really freaking sad, isn&#039;t it. Hopefully you can&#039;t go to jail for fraud over non-narcotics, lol. (From Janie: all your options for good thyroid treatment: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/options-for-thyroid-treatment )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am totally getting it on pay day!!  I understand what you are saying I just really hope this armour is the real deal.  Keep on with the fight for all of us.  I am really frustrated that none of the doctor&#8217;s at Cleveland Clinic will even listen to anything I say from your site.  They are the doctor with the experience, paid the student loans, we know nothing.   That is why all I need is the book and I will have to lie to two different doctors and play the game to get more of the armour so I can up my doses myself.  Really freaking sad, isn&#8217;t it. Hopefully you can&#8217;t go to jail for fraud over non-narcotics, lol. (From Janie: all your options for good thyroid treatment: <a href="http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/options-for-thyroid-treatment" rel="nofollow">http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/options-for-thyroid-treatment</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: marie</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/06/02/trying-the-newly-formulated-armour/comment-page-2/#comment-145859</link>
		<dc:creator>marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again Janie, no offense, but I have tried all the forums in the world.  I am tired of sitting and comparing symptoms, comparing how stupid the doctors and drug companies are.  All I want is your book and your answer to that one little question. Based on all your statements and all I have read from the millions of sufferers is armour was reformulated, doesn&#039;t dissolve and so on and so on. 

 I come to you with hopefully good news and possibly valuable information to possibly help.   All I asked was, based on my finding of it dissolving so quickly, do you, as the expert wanting to help people, think it is possible it is back to old formulation, or no way.   What good would it do for me to ask people in the same boat as me, they know as much as I do for the most part.  How wonderful would it be for you the expert on this subject to say the new armour is back, if it is.  That is why I came to you to tell you and ask you expert opinion, yes, no, maybe?   The pharmacist can&#039;t answer this, the doctor thinks I am insane, so why not ask the person who wrote the book and has this wonderful site one important life saving question?  If you believe there is no chance the fda or whoever would allow the old reformulation to return then that would also answer my question.

(From Janie: Hon, I&#039;m not an expert when it comes to second guessing, though. lol. What I AM good at is bringing &quot;patient information&quot; to the forefront. That&#039;s why I am called the &quot;Messenger of patient experience&quot;. So when someone wants answers that I might now have yet, they CAN find them the same why I do--by asking other patients. :) And right now, I have nothing to give as to whether the old formulation has come back, or will come back, except by waiting to see what patients are saying. And anyone can be a step ahead of me by going to groups and seeing what others are experiencing. P.S. And you will benefit greatly by the revised STTM book! A great compilation of patient experience and successes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Janie, no offense, but I have tried all the forums in the world.  I am tired of sitting and comparing symptoms, comparing how stupid the doctors and drug companies are.  All I want is your book and your answer to that one little question. Based on all your statements and all I have read from the millions of sufferers is armour was reformulated, doesn&#8217;t dissolve and so on and so on. </p>
<p> I come to you with hopefully good news and possibly valuable information to possibly help.   All I asked was, based on my finding of it dissolving so quickly, do you, as the expert wanting to help people, think it is possible it is back to old formulation, or no way.   What good would it do for me to ask people in the same boat as me, they know as much as I do for the most part.  How wonderful would it be for you the expert on this subject to say the new armour is back, if it is.  That is why I came to you to tell you and ask you expert opinion, yes, no, maybe?   The pharmacist can&#8217;t answer this, the doctor thinks I am insane, so why not ask the person who wrote the book and has this wonderful site one important life saving question?  If you believe there is no chance the fda or whoever would allow the old reformulation to return then that would also answer my question.</p>
<p>(From Janie: Hon, I&#8217;m not an expert when it comes to second guessing, though. lol. What I AM good at is bringing &#8220;patient information&#8221; to the forefront. That&#8217;s why I am called the &#8220;Messenger of patient experience&#8221;. So when someone wants answers that I might now have yet, they CAN find them the same why I do&#8211;by asking other patients. <img src='http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  And right now, I have nothing to give as to whether the old formulation has come back, or will come back, except by waiting to see what patients are saying. And anyone can be a step ahead of me by going to groups and seeing what others are experiencing. P.S. And you will benefit greatly by the revised STTM book! A great compilation of patient experience and successes!</p>
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		<title>By: marie</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/06/02/trying-the-newly-formulated-armour/comment-page-2/#comment-145698</link>
		<dc:creator>marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment was approved by nobody answered the question.  The armour dissolved instantly under my tongue.  Does that mean it is back to old formulation?  It is for sure the name brand armour not the generic I double checked.   Thank you so much for your help.

(From Janie: use patient groups: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/talk-to-others )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment was approved by nobody answered the question.  The armour dissolved instantly under my tongue.  Does that mean it is back to old formulation?  It is for sure the name brand armour not the generic I double checked.   Thank you so much for your help.</p>
<p>(From Janie: use patient groups: <a href="http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/talk-to-others" rel="nofollow">http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/talk-to-others</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: marie</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/06/02/trying-the-newly-formulated-armour/comment-page-2/#comment-145453</link>
		<dc:creator>marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just picked up the armour last night.   This morning I smashed it between 2 spoons and put it under my tongue and it dissolved INSTANTLY.   Nothing like the naturethroid that I did the same to.  That stuff sat under my tongue forever.  Could it be the old armour is back now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just picked up the armour last night.   This morning I smashed it between 2 spoons and put it under my tongue and it dissolved INSTANTLY.   Nothing like the naturethroid that I did the same to.  That stuff sat under my tongue forever.  Could it be the old armour is back now?</p>
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		<title>By: Chrissie</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/06/02/trying-the-newly-formulated-armour/comment-page-2/#comment-84879</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrissie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t get on well with the reformulated Armour and was prescribed Erfa instead.  I have been using Erfa for ages now, and it doesn&#039;t work as well as Armour used to, so I would like to know whether anyone knows the situation with Armour?  Does anyone know whether they have changed the formula back or not, or are they still insisting on the new formula?  Thanks!

(From Janie: FYI, Erfa works just as well as the old Armour did, for me. Be sure you are on enough, or have addressed adrenals or iron. )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get on well with the reformulated Armour and was prescribed Erfa instead.  I have been using Erfa for ages now, and it doesn&#8217;t work as well as Armour used to, so I would like to know whether anyone knows the situation with Armour?  Does anyone know whether they have changed the formula back or not, or are they still insisting on the new formula?  Thanks!</p>
<p>(From Janie: FYI, Erfa works just as well as the old Armour did, for me. Be sure you are on enough, or have addressed adrenals or iron. )</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 01:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Armour Thyroid Reformulation - 
Forest states that the &quot;only thing&quot; that has changed in the new formulation of Armour is the fillers.  More specifically they say that they have increased the amount of cellulose, added cornstarch and decreased the amount of dextrose in the Armour Thyroid tablets. 

Do they realize that the changes to the ingredients that have been made, has been detrimental to the individuals that have to take thyroid replacement drugs.  This NEW re-formulated drug is literally killing people who are taking it due to their sensitivity and allergic reactions to these fillers.  The already KNOWN side effects are even more severe now than they were with the previous formulation, according to personal knowledge as well as the documented feedback that I&#039;ve read on the Internet, regarding this situation.  To be fair there were some individuals (few that I found) that either were not effected at all or it worked better for them.  

What constituted the need to change the medication in the first place?  What clinical studies have been made regarding this situation, and are the findings  available to the public?  Could it be that some people were allergic to it, and it was changed to benefit them.  If so, then perhaps this &quot;new&quot; Armour should have been released with the new formulation to benefit those people, not take away the Armour that was working for others.  Isn&#039;t this American?  Are we not supposed to have the freedom of choice as well.  

What genius(s) decided to make these changes to the drug, then take the &quot;good&quot; Armour off the market and not even inform doctors, pharmacies and patients, that these changes were going to be made, and eventually did make and marketed it.  Now, what will happen to the people that did good on the &quot;Old&quot; (circa 2008) Armour Thyroid formula, that may only have access to the new formula? Will they just have to &quot;live with it&quot; and continue to suffer and eventual die early because of complications due to this medication.  Unfortunately, for some of the individuals that are struggling with this formula of Armour Thyroid will eventually have an early death because of it.  This is not acceptable!

Here is a list of the types of side effects and allergic reactions that people are having that are taking this medication, and what they  have to live with 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and 365 a year:

Headaches, trouble swallowing, choking sensation when swallowing liquids and food, pressure and pain on neck near thyroid location, pressure on lower jaw, stomach trouble, no appetite, gas, shaking, constipation, heart racing (constantly), excessive sweating, hair loss, cold extremities, constant girdling pain (crushing feeling around the torso both front and back from diaphragm up), rash, pimples on legs and belly, weight loss, weight gain, itching, pressure on lungs (difficult breathing, talking and laughing), difficulty in speaking, feels bloated, hoarse at times, loss of smell has trouble walking, hurts to be touched. 
When using lower dosage to attempt to minimize the severity of the pain, joints ache and swell on fingers, wrists and in some cases elbows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Armour Thyroid Reformulation &#8211;<br />
Forest states that the &#8220;only thing&#8221; that has changed in the new formulation of Armour is the fillers.  More specifically they say that they have increased the amount of cellulose, added cornstarch and decreased the amount of dextrose in the Armour Thyroid tablets. </p>
<p>Do they realize that the changes to the ingredients that have been made, has been detrimental to the individuals that have to take thyroid replacement drugs.  This NEW re-formulated drug is literally killing people who are taking it due to their sensitivity and allergic reactions to these fillers.  The already KNOWN side effects are even more severe now than they were with the previous formulation, according to personal knowledge as well as the documented feedback that I&#8217;ve read on the Internet, regarding this situation.  To be fair there were some individuals (few that I found) that either were not effected at all or it worked better for them.  </p>
<p>What constituted the need to change the medication in the first place?  What clinical studies have been made regarding this situation, and are the findings  available to the public?  Could it be that some people were allergic to it, and it was changed to benefit them.  If so, then perhaps this &#8220;new&#8221; Armour should have been released with the new formulation to benefit those people, not take away the Armour that was working for others.  Isn&#8217;t this American?  Are we not supposed to have the freedom of choice as well.  </p>
<p>What genius(s) decided to make these changes to the drug, then take the &#8220;good&#8221; Armour off the market and not even inform doctors, pharmacies and patients, that these changes were going to be made, and eventually did make and marketed it.  Now, what will happen to the people that did good on the &#8220;Old&#8221; (circa 2008) Armour Thyroid formula, that may only have access to the new formula? Will they just have to &#8220;live with it&#8221; and continue to suffer and eventual die early because of complications due to this medication.  Unfortunately, for some of the individuals that are struggling with this formula of Armour Thyroid will eventually have an early death because of it.  This is not acceptable!</p>
<p>Here is a list of the types of side effects and allergic reactions that people are having that are taking this medication, and what they  have to live with 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and 365 a year:</p>
<p>Headaches, trouble swallowing, choking sensation when swallowing liquids and food, pressure and pain on neck near thyroid location, pressure on lower jaw, stomach trouble, no appetite, gas, shaking, constipation, heart racing (constantly), excessive sweating, hair loss, cold extremities, constant girdling pain (crushing feeling around the torso both front and back from diaphragm up), rash, pimples on legs and belly, weight loss, weight gain, itching, pressure on lungs (difficult breathing, talking and laughing), difficulty in speaking, feels bloated, hoarse at times, loss of smell has trouble walking, hurts to be touched.<br />
When using lower dosage to attempt to minimize the severity of the pain, joints ache and swell on fingers, wrists and in some cases elbows.</p>
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		<title>By: Usha</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/06/02/trying-the-newly-formulated-armour/comment-page-2/#comment-59985</link>
		<dc:creator>Usha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 04:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have been taking Levo for 6+ years. But switched to armour thyroid since last year June. was getting my prescription filled for 2 months and felt so great since armour. But all of a sudden I hear this back-order news. then the re-formulated one doesn&#039;t feel the same as the old. I feel tired, weight gain with contained diet, hair loss. I am not sure if Forest is forced by FDA to reformulate. do we have to fight for a natural medicine which works so well for most of us? :( I don&#039;t mind fighting if we get the quality back. any place where we can voice our opinions which will be hopefully heard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have been taking Levo for 6+ years. But switched to armour thyroid since last year June. was getting my prescription filled for 2 months and felt so great since armour. But all of a sudden I hear this back-order news. then the re-formulated one doesn&#8217;t feel the same as the old. I feel tired, weight gain with contained diet, hair loss. I am not sure if Forest is forced by FDA to reformulate. do we have to fight for a natural medicine which works so well for most of us? <img src='http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  I don&#8217;t mind fighting if we get the quality back. any place where we can voice our opinions which will be hopefully heard?</p>
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		<title>By: Rene Parke</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/06/02/trying-the-newly-formulated-armour/comment-page-2/#comment-59435</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene Parke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 15:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please call Pam at Armour Thyroid.  She is in quality control with Forrest Labs!  Her phone number and direct extension are:  #1 800-678-1605 Ext. 67023.  Please, please call her and/or leave a message on her voicemail relaying your concerns and discontent!  I JUST DID!!!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please call Pam at Armour Thyroid.  She is in quality control with Forrest Labs!  Her phone number and direct extension are:  #1 800-678-1605 Ext. 67023.  Please, please call her and/or leave a message on her voicemail relaying your concerns and discontent!  I JUST DID!!!! <img src='http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rene Parke</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/06/02/trying-the-newly-formulated-armour/comment-page-2/#comment-59431</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene Parke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 15:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank god for all your comments and insight... I can relate to so many of you!!  It is sooo nice to have a forum where we can go, support, and relate to one another!!  I had my thyroid removed in 1999 completely due to cancer.  I was on synthroid and a combo of synthroid/cytomel when armour went off the market!!  I was soo excited when it finally came back and even started to feel better immediately within a week or two.  But I haven&#039;t been feeling well lately and feel like I&#039;ve regressed and slowly declining!  Now, thank god after finding this info here and on about.com, it makes sooo much sense!  I too noticed it didn&#039;t have the icky smell which was obviously what made it &#039;effective&#039;!!  I have many of the symptoms you say, brain fog, exhausted, water retention, acne, weight gain and around the middle, etc...  I have heard people saying they are going to bring back the old formula, but have my serious doubts that will happen after being off the market this long!!  But, maybe if we all ban together, we can force them to rethink this whole thing and what it is doing to so countless many!!  I am also going to check into the Westhroid and Nature Throid actually this week with my doctor after he checks my levels.  I&#039;ve also been hearing however that they have also been &#039;forced&#039; to reformulate theirs due to the Governments FDA regulations!!  It&#039;s an ongoing and forever battle!!  Best of health, Rene&#039; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god for all your comments and insight&#8230; I can relate to so many of you!!  It is sooo nice to have a forum where we can go, support, and relate to one another!!  I had my thyroid removed in 1999 completely due to cancer.  I was on synthroid and a combo of synthroid/cytomel when armour went off the market!!  I was soo excited when it finally came back and even started to feel better immediately within a week or two.  But I haven&#8217;t been feeling well lately and feel like I&#8217;ve regressed and slowly declining!  Now, thank god after finding this info here and on about.com, it makes sooo much sense!  I too noticed it didn&#8217;t have the icky smell which was obviously what made it &#8216;effective&#8217;!!  I have many of the symptoms you say, brain fog, exhausted, water retention, acne, weight gain and around the middle, etc&#8230;  I have heard people saying they are going to bring back the old formula, but have my serious doubts that will happen after being off the market this long!!  But, maybe if we all ban together, we can force them to rethink this whole thing and what it is doing to so countless many!!  I am also going to check into the Westhroid and Nature Throid actually this week with my doctor after he checks my levels.  I&#8217;ve also been hearing however that they have also been &#8216;forced&#8217; to reformulate theirs due to the Governments FDA regulations!!  It&#8217;s an ongoing and forever battle!!  Best of health, Rene&#8217; <img src='http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/06/02/trying-the-newly-formulated-armour/comment-page-2/#comment-51326</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if we are concerned enough about where these little pigs hail from?
I&#039;ve left Armour behind, opting for a compounding pharmacy in my area. I take 4 grains, and sometimes 5 daily. I dose organically according to how I feel. I&#039;m female, 5 foot 11 and weigh 176, am 62 yrs old.
I have good and bad days, but am not immobilized and still do my job.
The pharmacist tells me he has many sources but confided that the best source (the one his patients preferred) was from New Zealand.
Considering how we treat our livestock in this country, this may be a clinical factor in results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if we are concerned enough about where these little pigs hail from?<br />
I&#8217;ve left Armour behind, opting for a compounding pharmacy in my area. I take 4 grains, and sometimes 5 daily. I dose organically according to how I feel. I&#8217;m female, 5 foot 11 and weigh 176, am 62 yrs old.<br />
I have good and bad days, but am not immobilized and still do my job.<br />
The pharmacist tells me he has many sources but confided that the best source (the one his patients preferred) was from New Zealand.<br />
Considering how we treat our livestock in this country, this may be a clinical factor in results.</p>
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