Comments on: The gnarly man and what we can do in the face of this crisis http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/08/29/the-gnarly-man-and-what-we-can-do-in-the-face-of-this-crisis/ Thyroid Treatment Scandal and Hypothyroid Mistreatment Thu, 02 Sep 2010 05:43:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bill Sanders http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/08/29/the-gnarly-man-and-what-we-can-do-in-the-face-of-this-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-42700 Bill Sanders Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:34:19 +0000 http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/?p=3317#comment-42700 Janie, Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge and research. I found YasminPharmacy.com offered 2000 x 60mg of Armour Thyroid generic for $199. That's .10 each. Since I take 1 x 60mg a day, that's a 6 year supply! Has anyone dealt with this supplier before? Any problems? There seems to be a concerted dragnet closing in on the American people. It appears that we will be forced to take the swine flu vaccine twice against our will. Since the FDA exists to help the pharma industry, turning to them for help is extremely naive. Ditto for congress. There must be some holistic doctors out there who are willing to certify that natural thyroid and insulin are necessary - while that avenue of supply is still available. Otherwise, I am thinking that the USA is targeted for destruction and depopulation by the NWO. It may be time to move overseas NOW, before it's too late. Janie, Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge and research. I found YasminPharmacy.com offered 2000 x 60mg of Armour Thyroid generic for $199. That’s .10 each. Since I take 1 x 60mg a day, that’s a 6 year supply! Has anyone dealt with this supplier before? Any problems?

There seems to be a concerted dragnet closing in on the American people. It appears that we will be forced to take the swine flu vaccine twice against our will. Since the FDA exists to help the pharma industry, turning to them for help is extremely naive. Ditto for congress.

There must be some holistic doctors out there who are willing to certify that natural thyroid and insulin are necessary — while that avenue of supply is still available. Otherwise, I am thinking that the USA is targeted for destruction and depopulation by the NWO. It may be time to move overseas NOW, before it’s too late.

]]> By: Starrie http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/08/29/the-gnarly-man-and-what-we-can-do-in-the-face-of-this-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-42660 Starrie Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:29:26 +0000 http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/?p=3317#comment-42660 I wrote my senator and congressman. Thanks! I wrote my senator and congressman. Thanks!

]]> By: jpatti http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/08/29/the-gnarly-man-and-what-we-can-do-in-the-face-of-this-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-42629 jpatti Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:29:00 +0000 http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/?p=3317#comment-42629 They won't care if there's no one but patients complaining. Even now, there are diabetics who swear that the current insulins don't work as well for them as beef and pork insulins do. These insulins can only be imported from other countries if you have a doctor's letter saying that none of the legal insulins work for you. Now, I never used insulin when the beef and pork ones were available myself, so have no idea if they might work better for me. It seems to me that Regular (which is "bio-identical") ought to be better than the old types. But folks who swear the old insulins worked better for them cannot get them. Unless you have a doctor certify that your bg won't go down with any of the modern insulins, you can't get the older types... even if you *know* you did better on them. Imagine if the only way to get natural thyroid were to have a doctor *verify* that your TSH could not be controlled by Synthroid? And since you won't get a doctor to say that, they'll be able to say, "See, these patients who swore they needed Armour were a bunch of hypochondriacs and we just took their placebo away..." They won’t care if there’s no one but patients complaining.

Even now, there are diabetics who swear that the current insulins don’t work as well for them as beef and pork insulins do. These insulins can only be imported from other countries if you have a doctor’s letter saying that none of the legal insulins work for you.

Now, I never used insulin when the beef and pork ones were available myself, so have no idea if they might work better for me. It seems to me that Regular (which is “bio-identical”) ought to be better than the old types. But folks who swear the old insulins worked better for them cannot get them. Unless you have a doctor certify that your bg won’t go down with any of the modern insulins, you can’t get the older types… even if you *know* you did better on them.

Imagine if the only way to get natural thyroid were to have a doctor *verify* that your TSH could not be controlled by Synthroid?

And since you won’t get a doctor to say that, they’ll be able to say, “See, these patients who swore they needed Armour were a bunch of hypochondriacs and we just took their placebo away…”

]]> By: nutralady2001 http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/08/29/the-gnarly-man-and-what-we-can-do-in-the-face-of-this-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-42591 nutralady2001 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:35:01 +0000 http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/?p=3317#comment-42591 I use Thyroid-S personally find it the same as Armour in Strength (old Armour that is).Wonder where Thyroid-S sources it's thyroid from I use Thyroid-S personally find it the same as Armour in Strength (old Armour that is).Wonder where Thyroid-S sources it’s thyroid from

]]> By: Jamie http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/08/29/the-gnarly-man-and-what-we-can-do-in-the-face-of-this-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-42530 Jamie Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:08:05 +0000 http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/?p=3317#comment-42530 Anyone using Erfa or Thyroid-S yet? What is your experience so far? Anyone using Erfa or Thyroid-S yet? What is your experience so far?

]]> By: Paul http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/08/29/the-gnarly-man-and-what-we-can-do-in-the-face-of-this-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-42482 Paul Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:55:57 +0000 http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/?p=3317#comment-42482 Janie, thanks for your leadership on this. I've emailed my Congressman tonight using your template as a guide. Thanks to the help from your website, I also have my Thyroid by Erfa ordered and on the way! Janie, thanks for your leadership on this. I’ve emailed my Congressman tonight using your template as a guide. Thanks to the help from your website, I also have my Thyroid by Erfa ordered and on the way!

]]> By: Amy http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/08/29/the-gnarly-man-and-what-we-can-do-in-the-face-of-this-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-42477 Amy Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:27:45 +0000 http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/?p=3317#comment-42477 To Theresa.. we are in Australia and my partner uses Thyroid by Erfa. I was told by Henry Knafo at Erfa, that Thyroid is already approved by the FDA equivalent in Canada, and because of this I would think it shouldn't have the same issues. It's all very concerning what is happening with the FDA and I really feel for everyone who's affected by it. I hope a positive outcome happens soon! To Theresa.. we are in Australia and my partner uses Thyroid by Erfa. I was told by Henry Knafo at Erfa, that Thyroid is already approved by the FDA equivalent in Canada, and because of this I would think it shouldn’t have the same issues.

It’s all very concerning what is happening with the FDA and I really feel for everyone who’s affected by it. I hope a positive outcome happens soon!

]]> By: kendra http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/08/29/the-gnarly-man-and-what-we-can-do-in-the-face-of-this-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-42468 kendra Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:47:06 +0000 http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/?p=3317#comment-42468 Love the idea of bombarding one media source at once, how about CNN health correspondant Sanjai Gupta? (pardon my spelling) Love the idea of bombarding one media source at once, how about CNN health correspondant Sanjai Gupta? (pardon my spelling)

]]> By: Nancy http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/08/29/the-gnarly-man-and-what-we-can-do-in-the-face-of-this-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-42466 Nancy Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:30:42 +0000 http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/?p=3317#comment-42466 I have written and called my representatives. I was told it was best to call their Washington office as they have staff that deal with different issues. This unfortunately comes under 'healh care' so the rep's are very tied up. I am trying to put together a letter that gets to the point that people can sign underneath ( petitions), as numbers of people maybe be the only way to get their attention. Second, I would like to see us organized to get our NTH from sources from other Countries. At this time I see panic and hoarding which is only normal as we without thyroids could be facing death, or returning to being severely disabled. We need some assurances from the Canadian system that will allow us to obtain our NTH from them without a problem. This would calm the fear while we attempt to educate and change our country's current position against us. Even if it means we have Representatives go to Canada to obtain the supply without hassles from US Customs to get our life critical hormone. I have written and called my representatives. I was told it was best to call their Washington office as they have staff that deal with different issues. This unfortunately comes under ‘healh care’ so the rep’s are very tied up.

I am trying to put together a letter that gets to the point that people can sign underneath ( petitions), as numbers of people maybe be the only way to get their attention.

Second, I would like to see us organized to get our NTH from sources from other Countries. At this time I see panic and hoarding which is only normal as we without thyroids could be facing death, or returning to being severely disabled.

We need some assurances from the Canadian system that will allow us to obtain our NTH from them without a problem. This would calm the fear while we attempt to educate and change our country’s current position against us. Even if it means we have Representatives go to Canada to obtain the supply without hassles from US Customs to get our life critical hormone.

]]> By: Cynthia K http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/08/29/the-gnarly-man-and-what-we-can-do-in-the-face-of-this-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-42462 Cynthia K Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:05:45 +0000 http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/?p=3317#comment-42462 I agree that our power to influence the outcome should not be directed at the FDA, and your characterization of it as the ogre/bully is right on target. I'll write to my representatives, but I am not confident that our doing so will have a lot of impact. What I wish we do is to choose 1-3 media organizations and go for "shock and awe." ALL of us, bombarding some powerful media source with an S.O.S. might go far. What do you think? I agree that our power to influence the outcome should not be directed at the FDA, and your characterization of it as the ogre/bully is right on target.

I’ll write to my representatives, but I am not confident that our doing so will have a lot of impact.

What I wish we do is to choose 1–3 media organizations and go for “shock and awe.” ALL of us, bombarding some powerful media source with an S.O.S. might go far. What do you think?

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