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	<title>Comments on: FDA is not requiring form when you order Erfa’s Thyroid</title>
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		<title>By: Dina</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/09/29/fda-form-not-required-with-erfa/comment-page-1/#comment-44849</link>
		<dc:creator>Dina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need to find a doctor in Texas who is willing to write a script for erfa.  Does anyone out there know of one?

(From Janie: there are actually many good docs in Texas who can do that for you. Join the NTH group and check the Files: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/talk-to-others )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to find a doctor in Texas who is willing to write a script for erfa.  Does anyone out there know of one?</p>
<p>(From Janie: there are actually many good docs in Texas who can do that for you. Join the NTH group and check the Files: <a href="http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/talk-to-others" rel="nofollow">http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/talk-to-others</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/09/29/fda-form-not-required-with-erfa/comment-page-1/#comment-44811</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is dessicated thyroid more effective and less degraded if taken sublingually?

 Can you eat or drink right away after it is completely dissolved?

Thanks, Lisa

(from Janie: Hi Lisa. I&#039;d recommend using patient groups to get answers: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/talk-to-others )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is dessicated thyroid more effective and less degraded if taken sublingually?</p>
<p> Can you eat or drink right away after it is completely dissolved?</p>
<p>Thanks, Lisa</p>
<p>(from Janie: Hi Lisa. I’d recommend using patient groups to get answers: <a href="http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/talk-to-others" rel="nofollow">http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/talk-to-others</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: neti` j jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>neti` j jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got blood test results back (required due to draconian thyroid &#039;switch-out&#039;!) &amp; my [HMO] doctor said, your TSH is a little &quot;low&quot; which means your levels are too high so continue the 88 mcg of Levothyroxine (T-4 only) then DON&#039;T take one on Sundays!

Upon my further probing, she actually SAID &quot;&#039;WE&#039; don&#039;t EVER write for &quot;Armour&quot; -- T-3 is not really of any particular importance -- we don&#039;t TEST for THAT (!!) &amp; NO one (like all snooty) &#039;here&#039; (in her plebian medical group!) will EVER &#039;start&#039; a new hypothyroid pt. on &quot;Armour!&quot; (Like THAT is a BAD WORD!}

I expressed my complete resentment over the &#039;shifting&#039; by a draconian money-grubbing body politic of MILLIONS of women to a CHEMICAL DRUG! Then I asked her, &quot;If I FIND a source for Armour Thyroid would [she] &#039;be so kind&#039; as to write me my old Armour Thyroid Rx.&quot;

She said she would, but she has no idea I am talking about Canada! I have a well-seasoned &quot;hunch&quot; that when I say I am getting it thru a Canadian pharmacy, she will BALK, &amp; start lecturing ME about why THAT is &quot;just NOT do-able!&quot; End result? I won&#039;t get the damned Rx!

See, no one at this medical group actually &#039;hands you&#039; a piece of paper with your &quot;Rx&quot; on it. Its all done by FAX. Fax&#039;s are ONLY sent to other pharmacies, within the U.S.  Certainly not to ME! (a &#039;lowly ignorant&#039;&amp; &quot;tiresome&quot; patient!)

I have previous print-outs of my Armour Thyroid Rx&#039;s; but when THIS whole thing bagan comin&#039; down on everyone&#039;s heads, the Armour scripts were replaced by the chem scripts!

Well ... any suggestions, anyone? Seems like there oughtta be a LOT of us finding themselves in this same position, too. 

In other words, what do you say that is &#039;politically&#039; feasible to your U.S. doctor?  I don&#039;t exactly want to set myself up for some condescending &#039;lecture,&#039; that is for sure! 

[She&#039;s already in MY &#039;doghouse,&#039; a real INhumane, programmed &#039;robot inna white coat!&#039; hehe Her name is &quot;WOOD!&quot; HAHA It totally describes her [NONexistent] &#039;people skills&#039; &amp; her bogus &#039;superiority attitude!&#039;]

Well anywayz, any feedback from anyone out there would sure be appreciated. I&#039;m also very happy for those of you who&#039;ve managed to &#039;get back&#039; your beloved whole thyroid -- congratulations!  I hope to become as capable as you.

Thanks every one. I look forward ... yay!
&lt;3 Neti` J.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got blood test results back (required due to draconian thyroid ‘switch-out’!) &amp; my [HMO] doctor said, your TSH is a little “low” which means your levels are too high so continue the 88 mcg of Levothyroxine (T-4 only) then DON’T take one on Sundays!</p>
<p>Upon my further probing, she actually SAID “‘WE’ don’t EVER write for “Armour” — T-3 is not really of any particular importance — we don’t TEST for THAT (!!) &amp; NO one (like all snooty) ‘here’ (in her plebian medical group!) will EVER ‘start’ a new hypothyroid pt. on “Armour!” (Like THAT is a BAD WORD!}</p>
<p>I expressed my complete resentment over the ‘shifting’ by a draconian money-grubbing body politic of MILLIONS of women to a CHEMICAL DRUG! Then I asked her, “If I FIND a source for Armour Thyroid would [she] ‘be so kind’ as to write me my old Armour Thyroid Rx.”</p>
<p>She said she would, but she has no idea I am talking about Canada! I have a well-seasoned “hunch” that when I say I am getting it thru a Canadian pharmacy, she will BALK, &amp; start lecturing ME about why THAT is “just NOT do-able!” End result? I won’t get the damned Rx!</p>
<p>See, no one at this medical group actually ‘hands you’ a piece of paper with your “Rx” on it. Its all done by FAX. Fax’s are ONLY sent to other pharmacies, within the U.S.  Certainly not to ME! (a ‘lowly ignorant’&amp; “tiresome” patient!)</p>
<p>I have previous print-outs of my Armour Thyroid Rx’s; but when THIS whole thing bagan comin’ down on everyone’s heads, the Armour scripts were replaced by the chem scripts!</p>
<p>Well … any suggestions, anyone? Seems like there oughtta be a LOT of us finding themselves in this same position, too. </p>
<p>In other words, what do you say that is ‘politically’ feasible to your U.S. doctor?  I don’t exactly want to set myself up for some condescending ‘lecture,’ that is for sure! </p>
<p>[She’s already in MY ‘doghouse,’ a real INhumane, programmed ‘robot inna white coat!’ hehe Her name is “WOOD!” HAHA It totally describes her [NONexistent] ‘people skills’ &amp; her bogus ‘superiority attitude!’]</p>
<p>Well anywayz, any feedback from anyone out there would sure be appreciated. I’m also very happy for those of you who’ve managed to ‘get back’ your beloved whole thyroid — congratulations!  I hope to become as capable as you.</p>
<p>Thanks every one. I look forward … yay!<br />
&lt;3 Neti‘ J.<br />
//^_^\\</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/09/29/fda-form-not-required-with-erfa/comment-page-1/#comment-44162</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So do you think Erfa is definitely a better choice than Armour? I&#039;ve gotten my hands on some Armour again, but my doctor&#039;s willing to let me order Erfa..I&#039;m wondering if I should make the switch or not.

(from Janie: I can&#039;t tell you what would be right for you, but for me, I would love to be taking Erfa&#039;s Thyroid. I&#039;m personally too suspicious of the reformulated Armour after reading of so many bad experiences.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So do you think Erfa is definitely a better choice than Armour? I’ve gotten my hands on some Armour again, but my doctor’s willing to let me order Erfa..I’m wondering if I should make the switch or not.</p>
<p>(from Janie: I can’t tell you what would be right for you, but for me, I would love to be taking Erfa’s Thyroid. I’m personally too suspicious of the reformulated Armour after reading of so many bad experiences.)</p>
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		<title>By: Belle</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/09/29/fda-form-not-required-with-erfa/comment-page-1/#comment-44159</link>
		<dc:creator>Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just started on Armour and I am having difficulty finding armour to refill my prescription. I have had a long road just getting diagnosed and I am desperate to get on a thyroid med that will work effectively. Is it okay to switch immediately from Armour to Thyroid?

(From Janie: comments from patients who have made the switch said they have done fine with Erfa&#039;s Thyroid. They state they either take a little more, or a little less, or the same. It&#039;s individual.  But most seem to love Erfa&#039;s brand. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/options-for-thyroid-treatment )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just started on Armour and I am having difficulty finding armour to refill my prescription. I have had a long road just getting diagnosed and I am desperate to get on a thyroid med that will work effectively. Is it okay to switch immediately from Armour to Thyroid?</p>
<p>(From Janie: comments from patients who have made the switch said they have done fine with Erfa’s Thyroid. They state they either take a little more, or a little less, or the same. It’s individual.  But most seem to love Erfa’s brand. <a href="http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/options-for-thyroid-treatment" rel="nofollow">http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/options-for-thyroid-treatment</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: Colette</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/09/29/fda-form-not-required-with-erfa/comment-page-1/#comment-44007</link>
		<dc:creator>Colette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forget to add that the people @ Canada 77 were extremely polite, articulate &amp; helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forget to add that the people @ Canada 77 were extremely polite, articulate &amp; helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Colette</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/09/29/fda-form-not-required-with-erfa/comment-page-1/#comment-44006</link>
		<dc:creator>Colette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ordered the Erfa thru Canada 77 Pharmacy on a Friday evening, after faxing my script for Amour to them.  They told me they would call my Dr. and get his OK to change it to Thyroid (Erfa).  They called him Monday AM and they shipped it out Thursday evening, USPS and I received it the following Tuesday.  I take  1 grain + 1/4 grain twice daily.  Since it doesn&#039;t come in 1/4 gr. size, I have to cut the 1/2 gr. in half-not a problem, they cut fairly even. I also was able to get a years supply at once and I keep them in the fridge.  The taste is like the old Amour and it dissolves easily under the tongue, something the &#039;new&#039; Armour and Naturethroid didn&#039;t do (chalky &amp; pastey).  I also look and feel like I&#039;m back to normal again.  I love it!  While on the new Armour and then Naturethroid when I couldn&#039;t get Armour anymore, I had my symptoms start to appear and in general just looked lousey.  I&#039;m thrilled with how I look and feel now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ordered the Erfa thru Canada 77 Pharmacy on a Friday evening, after faxing my script for Amour to them.  They told me they would call my Dr. and get his OK to change it to Thyroid (Erfa).  They called him Monday AM and they shipped it out Thursday evening, USPS and I received it the following Tuesday.  I take  1 grain + 1/4 grain twice daily.  Since it doesn’t come in 1/4 gr. size, I have to cut the 1/2 gr. in half-not a problem, they cut fairly even. I also was able to get a years supply at once and I keep them in the fridge.  The taste is like the old Amour and it dissolves easily under the tongue, something the ‘new’ Armour and Naturethroid didn’t do (chalky &amp; pastey).  I also look and feel like I’m back to normal again.  I love it!  While on the new Armour and then Naturethroid when I couldn’t get Armour anymore, I had my symptoms start to appear and in general just looked lousey.  I’m thrilled with how I look and feel now.</p>
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		<title>By: BILL</title>
		<link>http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/09/29/fda-form-not-required-with-erfa/comment-page-1/#comment-43972</link>
		<dc:creator>BILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I AM NEW TO THIS BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN IDEA WHY THEY DECIDED TO MESS WITH SOMTHING THAT WAS WORKING FOR YEARS (ARMOUR THAT IS)I STILL HAVE A 60 DAY SUPPLY OF OLD ARMOUR BUT I DON&#039;T LIKE  WHAT I&#039;M READING.SO WHAT IS THE NEXT BEST THING?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I AM NEW TO THIS BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN IDEA WHY THEY DECIDED TO MESS WITH SOMTHING THAT WAS WORKING FOR YEARS (ARMOUR THAT IS)I STILL HAVE A 60 DAY SUPPLY OF OLD ARMOUR BUT I DON’T LIKE  WHAT I’M READING.SO WHAT IS THE NEXT BEST THING?</p>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i still don&#039;t understand why,(it really burns me up!) that you have to have a prescription to buy a NATURAL thyroid med. i don&#039;t have ins. &amp; can&#039;t afford to see a doc to get one. your heart is the most important organ in your body, yet you can buy all sorts of natural supplements for it. if your heart fails, you die. if your thyroid fails, you live, but you&#039;ll need t-meds for as long as your alive. since dessicated thyroid meds aren&#039;t fda approved, you would think a script for natural t-meds wouldn&#039;t be necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i still don’t understand why,(it really burns me up!) that you have to have a prescription to buy a NATURAL thyroid med. i don’t have ins. &amp; can’t afford to see a doc to get one. your heart is the most important organ in your body, yet you can buy all sorts of natural supplements for it. if your heart fails, you die. if your thyroid fails, you live, but you’ll need t-meds for as long as your alive. since dessicated thyroid meds aren’t fda approved, you would think a script for natural t-meds wouldn’t be necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Lovely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lovely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does one tell the difference between the old and new Armour?

I switched to Armour just two months ago from a generic synthetic.

(From Janie: old is sweet and can dissolve well under the tongue: new is not sweet, chalky, hard to dissolve under tongue)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does one tell the difference between the old and new Armour?</p>
<p>I switched to Armour just two months ago from a generic synthetic.</p>
<p>(From Janie: old is sweet and can dissolve well under the tongue: new is not sweet, chalky, hard to dissolve under tongue)</p>
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