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FDA is not requiring form when you order Erfa’s Thyroid

CloudSilverLiningSome­ti­mes there is a sil­ver lining with the storm cloud of bac­kor­de­red US desic­ca­ted thyroid.

Erfa, the makers of the Cana­dian ver­sion of natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid, simply called “Thy­roid”, has recently announ­ced that the FDA is not requi­ring the exten­sive FDA Form 1572 from US citi­zens and their doc­tors when they fill their presc­rip­tions from Erfa directly. i.e. it’s now a lot easier to get your presc­rip­tion filled directly from them.

http://www.erfa-sa.com/thyroid_usa.htm

And those who have star­ted to use Erfa’s Thy­roid report being quite plea­sed. A cherry on top is that Thy­roid has that old sweet taste we used to all like with the old Armour, and it can be done sublin­gually as well! You can see the ingre­dients here.

Also, I am con­ti­nuing to get emails from patients that both Armour and Natu­reth­roid is star­ting to appear on phar­macy shel­ves, even if in small quan­ti­ties.  I’m per­so­nally not too exci­ted about Armour reap­pea­ring if Forest con­ti­nues to make the refor­mu­la­ted ver­sion. Just too many patients repor­ting a return of hypo symp­toms, even when they raise it, plus new symp­toms of under­treat­ment and/or cha­llen­ged adre­nals thanks to the refor­mu­la­ted ver­sion. Sad. Oh how we will all miss the old Armour.

In the mean­time, here are options for thy­roid treat­ment we all have until we see a good return of desic­ca­ted thy­roid, inc­lu­ding Natu­reth­roid and Westh­roid. They are all far, far bet­ter than being on T4 alone like Synth­roid, Levoxyl, levothy­ro­xine, et al. You’ll also note com­poun­ded thy­roid, which can be a good option, and you can read about on a recent blog post.  Aus­tra­lians hap­pily use com­poun­ded in their own country. Any option you and your doc­tor choose may mean a read­just­ment by your body, by the way.

Want to talk to other patients on how they are dea­ling with the shor­ta­ges? Join the Coa­li­tion for Desic­ca­ted Thy­roid.  Or if you simply need patient feed­back about your hypothy­roi­dism, go to the Talk to Others page.  Remem­ber that no patient group is meant to be a subs­ti­tute for your rela­tionship with your doctor.

**The next Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call will be held Thurs­day Oct. 8th on TalkShoe, and our topic will be iodine and your thy­roid with patient expert Stepha­nie Buist. Come join us and lis­ten right on your com­pu­ter, or you can also talk live to Stepha­nie or Janie with your questions.


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.

Yes, desiccated thyroid is making its way to pharmacy shelves!

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With all the panic among thy­roid patients of the last seve­ral weeks, we are now seeing light at the end of the current tun­nel of desic­ca­ted thy­roid shor­ta­ges. More reports are coming in by patients that it’s appea­ring on shel­ves at their local phar­ma­cies, inc­lu­ding both Armour and Natu­reth­roid. Sure, it’s a tric­kle com­pa­red to the amount of US patients that need it. But it’s a sign of hope of more to come.

On the CDT (Coa­li­tion for Desic­ca­ted Thy­roid) yahoo group, where patients have been dis­cus­sing the shor­ta­ges and fin­ding pla­ces to get their desic­ca­ted thy­roid, patient Ele­nor gave just one more example:

“After losing “my” Wal-Mart’s last left-over bottle of Natu­reth­roid to some other thy­roid per­son (lucky him or her){wink}, I called around to pharms — and Sam’s Club Pharm two towns over had just got­ten ONE bottle of 60mg Armour in yes­ter­day. (I did also find a CVS that had a bottle and a half of the 90mg Armour — so there are some dribs-and-drabs left around… My doc wouldn’t write for me to get that too…) (YAY!) Emai­led my doc’s nurse beg­ging her to do it right away — which thank­fully she did, so they dis­pen­sed it “to me” and I can pick it up today! Down to three days left in my pos­ses­sion, so … WHEW!”

Ele­nor conc­lu­ded: Still gonna see my doc 5th Oct and try to order 500 tablets from Canada. I do not EVER want to be scram­bling like this again — for ANY reason…

And we all agree with you, Ele­nor!

Clearly, our current shor­ta­ges were cau­sed by two fac­tors: demand being grea­ter than supply thanks to web­si­tes like Stop the Thy­roid Mad­ness (STTM), forums, groups and others, as well as the remar­kably poor timing by the FDA in cau­sing the only remai­ning gene­ric makers of desic­ca­ted thy­roid to cease production.

And in case you haven’t caught up with what’s going on, you can read a sum­mary of the his­tory about the FDA and regu­la­tions which will explain what we will have to face for desic­ca­ted thy­roid in the future, which is our real challenge.

**JOIN US TONIGHT for our weekly THYROID PATIENT COMMUNITY CALL hos­ted by Janie Bowthorpe. We’ll have an open topic night and perhaps a sur­prise guest (still wai­ting on con­fir­ma­tion on that). Let’s talk about the shor­ta­ges, ways to con­ti­nue trea­ting during this time, and more. NOTE that I have moved up the times by one hour. Just click on the link and you’ll see a count­down of when it starts: 6 pm Paci­fic, 7 pm Moun­tain, 8 pm Cen­tral and 9 pm Eastern.


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.

Glad to see some reason creeping in with thyroid patient discussion!

IMG_2564If you have been kee­ping up with my posts, you’ll know that thy­roid patients have been facing a shor­tage of desic­ca­ted thy­roid for many weeks, pro­bably due to sharp inc­rea­sed demand i.e. thy­roid patients have been fin­ding out how lousy T4-only treat­ment like Synth­roid has been for them, and how much bet­ter desic­ca­ted thy­roid is.

That demand became espe­cially true after a refor­mu­la­tion of Armour by Forest Labs in 2009 drove patients to RLC’s Natu­reth­roid and Westh­roid. The “new” Armour cau­sed a return of hypo symp­toms plus new mad­de­ning ones, inc­lu­ding pal­pi­ta­tions and sleep pro­blems never seen before.  As Julia Roberts said in the 1990 movie Pretty Woman: Big mis­take, Big, Huge.

In addi­tion, it didn’t help when Time Cap Labs, a phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal which made plenty of desic­ca­ted thy­roid for other phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals, stop­ped pro­duc­tion after being con­tac­ted by the FDA. This action was pro­bably in line with their aims to make long-term unap­pro­ved drugs become appro­ved, even if the timing was inc­re­dibly stupid.

As all the above was hap­pe­ning, panic ensued!

We’ve heard all varie­ties of nega­tive pre­sump­tions from thy­roid patients about what cau­sed the shor­tage, inc­lu­ding an FDA cons­pi­racy and an overt belief that desic­ca­ted thy­roid is about to be remo­ved.  Patients have threa­te­ned law suits, bla­med phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals, and/or sent nume­rous let­ters to FDA plea­ding to keep desic­ca­ted thy­roid as if it was to be gone tomo­rrow. Even I, at first, fell in line won­de­ring about the FDA.

But it star­ted to dawn on me, as it has others, than we have been jum­ping the gun, not giving enough empha­sis to facts and reason.

And finally, facts and rea­son are star­ting to appear on blogs and groups:

1) Yes, Forest Labs, the makers of Armour, and RLC, the makers of Natu­reth­roid and Westh­roid, state they have not been con­tac­ted by the FDA. We have no rea­son to dis­be­lieve them!

2) Yes, RLC is wor­king hard to catch up, as is Ame­ri­can Labo­ra­to­ries, both state. We also have no rea­son to dis­be­lieve them!

3) Yes, thy­roid patients who know the supe­rio­rity of desic­ca­ted thy­roid have always been there to sup­port them. Glad to see that recog­ni­tion in blog and group postings.

4) Yes, as health wri­ter Mary Sho­mon has sta­ted, information-gathering, brains­tor­ming, and com­mu­ni­ca­ting with our doc­tors is a good thing to be doing.  That is con­trary to making panicky nega­tive pre­dic­tions about desic­ca­ted thy­roid,  rall­ying for law suits, and fee­ding ideas to the FDA that may not be there in the first place.

5) Yes, we need to put energy in let­ting the world know about the supe­rio­rity of desic­ca­ted thy­roid treat­ment in our lives. That is where our power lies in the face of clue­less Endoc­ri­no­lo­gists and their equally-clueless medi­cal boards like AACE.

6) Yes, we need to lis­ten to and sup­port the phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals and labo­ra­to­ries which give us the desic­ca­ted thy­roid we need. It’s they who have to walk the line with the FDA. Let’s lis­ten to their cau­tions and sup­port them.

Stran­gely, there are still mis­con­cep­tions being repor­ted by patient blogs and posts:

1) That we don’t know what cau­sed the shor­tage. But we do! Demand is as logi­cal as it gets.  All of us have suc­cee­ded in get­ting the word out! That is exactly why I crea­ted STTM in the first place!  And by emails I get every week, it’s clear that it’s been working.

2) That groups like the Coa­li­tion for Desic­ca­ted Thy­roid (CDT) have a wait-and-see atti­tude. That is as silly as saying STTM wants to ban T4 or encou­ra­ges self-treatment. There are simply some thy­roid patients who don’t agree with the extreme panic and nega­tive pre­sump­tions that have been going on, and want more rea­son in our pro-activity!  Patients have been encou­ra­ged to spread the word in any way pos­si­ble about the supe­rio­rity of desic­ca­ted thy­roid and how it’s chan­ged lives, NOT to feed dire nega­tive pre­dic­tions which only end up giving ideas we don’t want to give! You are most wel­come to join the Coa­li­tion above in addi­tion to other groups.

Good for patients and advo­ca­tes alike for put­ting more rea­son and fact in this situation.

I’m also glad to see some stra­te­gic, pro-active behind-the-scenes work going on as a just-in-case line of acti­vism. That is the way it should have always been – a plan for action “just in case”, not dire pre­dic­tions and fear mon­ge­ring as if it all WAS going to happen.

We’ll get through this, folks. Here are options for thy­roid treat­ment in the mean­time. And if you want to talk to other patients, join our thy­roid patient Com­mu­nity Call this Fri­day. Details are found in the Sep­tem­ber 7th blog post.


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.

American Laboratories continues to work hard at production.

ALIOn the August 19th blog post, you can read about the only North Ame­ri­can manu­fac­tu­rer of natu­ral por­cine desic­ca­ted thy­roid called Ame­ri­can Labo­ra­to­ries (ALI). ALI sells to dis­tri­bu­tors who in turn pack it up in sma­ller quan­ti­ties which go to those who create desic­ca­ted thy­roid products.

I just got off the phone again from Kenny Soe­joto, the Chief Ope­ra­ting Offi­cer at ALI.  And the news couldn’t be bet­ter.  ALI is wor­king hard to catch up and is currently ship­ping to all their cus­to­mers.  Yes, they are still in a bac­kor­der situa­tion due to demand being grea­ter than supply in 2009, but work is in pro­gress, ship­ments are being made to all, and they hope to see some major catching-up in two months or so.

And his most impor­tant com­ment? “If we had FDA issues, we wouldn’t be pro­du­cing”. i.e. everything is going fine. :)

In the mean­time, there seems to be two areas of suc­cess right now with get­ting your desic­ca­ted thy­roid presc­rip­tion filled:  from Cana­dian phar­ma­cies, and from Com­poun­ding phar­ma­cies.  Hang in there. We’ll get past this.

Join us next Fri­day for our next thy­roid patient Com­mu­nity Call via Talk Shoe. See the blog post right below this for infor­ma­tion.  Below that is infor­ma­tion about the Coa­li­tion for Natu­ral Desic­ca­ted Thy­roid, an inde­pen­dent group wor­king along­side Mary Shomon’s efforts, as well.

*Want to be infor­med of these blog posts? Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Just use the Noti­fi­ca­tions on the left below the links.

* STTM t-shirts are half price! I love sales!


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.

Join us every Friday night for a STTM Community Call Talk Show

talkshoeOh boy! You are invi­ted to a Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on your com­pu­ter which will be held each and every Fri­day night for an hour with myself, Janie, as host.  We had the first one last Fri­day and it was fun and infor­ma­tive. No, I didn’t announce it here because I wan­ted to work on any bugs in the sys­tem as we lear­ned to use it.

Here’s a chance to ask ques­tions about shor­ta­ges of desic­ca­ted thy­roid, options to talk to your doc­tor about to treat your hypothy­roi­dism during this shor­tage period, how to find a good doc­tor, and more.

Times are 7 pm Paci­fic, 8 pm Moun­tain, 9 pm Cen­tral and 10 pm Eas­tern. Just go here: http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=62603&cmd=tc

You can make two choi­ces: just lis­ten to the Audio of the pod­cast talk show, or call in. Phone num­ber will be right on the bot­tom.  You can regis­ter with Talk Shoe and pick a user name, or come in as a Guest.

You’ll also note a chat box.  The handy and beau­ti­ful gals Darla and Diane will usually be there to guide you. If you want to line up to talk in the queue, you’ll be asked the topic of your con­ver­sa­tion in the chat box.  As you wait for me to get to you, you’ll be able to hear the talk through your phone, and will need to MUTE your com­pu­ter sound.

You’ll be seeing guests join us, as well, so watch for each Com­mu­nity Call announ­ce­ment on the above link. And even without a sche­du­led guest, you just never know who is going to pop in and chat. :)

Come join us! And remem­ber: we are all just patients chat­ting with patients. This is not to replace the rela­tionship with your doc­tor in your treat­ment or for treat­ment advice. Stick with your doc­tor for that.

*Want to be infor­med of these blog posts? Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Just use the Noti­fi­ca­tions on the left below the links.

* STTM t-shirts are half price! I love sales!


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.
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