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To all doctors and pharmacies: cellulose IS a problem with desiccated thyroid

A patient recently repor­ted on Face­book that a par­ti­cu­lar large and well-known health cen­ter in Texas deci­ded to make their own com­poun­ded natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid for their hypothy­roid patients…with cellulose.

Having read my blog posts about wides­pread nega­tive patient expe­rience with cellu­lose, she told the phar­macy that many of us have noti­ced dis­tinct pro­blems with the addi­tion of cellu­lose in our desic­ca­ted thy­roid medi­ca­tions – exactly why the newly for­mu­la­ted Armour cau­sed too many patients to see a return of their hypothy­roid symp­toms. Natu­reth­roid has not esca­ped the same fate for some.

When she asked if they could remove the cellu­lose, she recei­ved a firm and con­des­cen­ding “No” from the phar­ma­cist, refe­rring to cellu­lose as “a com­mon ingre­dient in many medi­ca­tions and not a problem.”

Not a pro­blem? Once again, patients are dis­mis­sed as if we couldn’t pos­sibly know what works, and what doesn’t work, in our treat­ment and in our own bodies. A sha­me­ful rea­lity. She left disap­poin­ted. 

What is cellu­lose? Cellu­lose is the most com­mon orga­nic subs­tance found on our pla­net – a fiber abun­dantly found in plants and trees, and most espe­cially in cotton.

Where is cellu­lose used? You wear it and you write on it! You eat it when you con­sume celery, pota­toes, or mush­rooms. It’s used to sta­bi­lize and thic­ken pro­ces­sed foods, and may be found in many chee­ses, dry milk, pud­dings, and more. And since it’s dif­fi­cult to find anyone aller­gic to wood, it’s been a com­mon ingre­dient in medi­ca­tions, used as a filler.

So where’s the pro­blem for thy­roid patients?

  1. Unlike the happy cows in their pas­tu­res che­wing their cuds, human sto­machs  have a limi­ted abi­lity to break cellu­lose down. Cellu­lose is a fiber. And what does fiber do? It “binds”. It binds to the desic­ca­ted thy­roid that has gone down with it.  i.e. the life-changing effects of desic­ca­ted thy­roid are clearly dam­pe­ned by the pre­sence of cellu­lose. Our “expe­rience” has revea­led it all across the globe since Armour was refor­mu­la­ted with an inc­rease of cellu­lose in the mix.  i.e. we have wit­nes­sed a mas­sive return of hypothy­roid symp­toms on the newly for­mu­la­ted Armour, and to some degree, on Natu­reth­roid, whether the lat­ter switched to mic­rocrys­ta­lline cellu­lose or not (as com­pa­red to the lar­ger celled methylcellulose).
  2. Hypothy­roid patients do not digest well. As one of many com­pli­ca­tions of hypothy­roi­dism,  espe­cially due to the ina­de­quate treat­ment of T4-only medi­ca­tions and poor diag­no­sis from the TSH lab test,  low sto­mach acid and poor diges­tion is COMMON in hypothy­roid patients.  So when you add cellu­lose to the mix, you are further dam­ning thy­roid patients.
  3. Though not spe­ci­fic to just thy­roid patients, we are not too com­for­ta­ble with fin­ding out that cellu­lose can collect in our lungs, as revea­led in pub­med artic­les here and here.  (Thanks to thy­roid patient Danny for aler­ting me to this.)

Bot­tom line, desic­ca­ted thy­roid is a qua­lity and supe­rior treat­ment medi­ca­tion which has chan­ged the lives ten-fold for thy­roid patients around the world.

But cellu­lose and desic­ca­ted thy­roid DO NOT MIX. And BRAVO to those com­poun­ding phar­ma­cies who have lis­te­ned and have used the bene­fi­cial pro­bio­tic aci­dophi­lus as a filler. We appre­ciate you.

P.S. I abso­lu­tely loved this com­ment made by another patient on Face­book when we were dis­cus­sing the grief of taking our last pre-formulated Armour: Would love to get my hands on some old Armour again.…those were the days my friends…

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Survey on patient experience on the NEW Armour – not a pretty picture

It’s been about a year since Armour desic­ca­ted thy­roid, a very popu­lar presc­rip­tion natu­ral thy­roid pro­duct on the mar­ket for deca­des, was refor­mu­la­ted. Forest Labs sta­ted there were two chan­ges: the rai­sing of cellu­lose, and the lowe­ring of sucrose.

Why did they do this? It could be strongly rela­ted to the fact that in late 2007 through 2008, patients who used the 3 grain tablets repor­ted they were sud­denly and enti­rely inef­fec­tive. So, many of us sur­mise that Forest was attemp­ting to “improve” (cough) their product.

Says one of those patients:  I had switched to the 3 grain tablet months before to save money and I used my pill cut­ter to cut it in half.  Then around Novem­ber, my work pants were get­ting tight and I would come home tired, achy and weak. It didn’t take me long to figure out that Armour in the 3 grain was now like a sugar pill!

In the mean­time, Forest brought out the newly for­mu­la­ted Armour, & patients who finished their old batch star­ted the new batch. And since then, it appears a large body of patients have run as fast as they could to Natu­reth­roid, or com­poun­ded, or T4/T3 or Erfa. The rea­son: a return of for­mer hypo symp­toms on the “new” Armour.

I have com­ple­ted an infor­mal sur­vey with 24 indi­vi­duals res­pon­ding, and asked the follo­wing ques­tions. After each ques­tion, I give a sum­mary of the answers.

  1. How long of doing well occu­rred on the newly refor­mu­la­ted Armour before you star­ted to notice that you weren’t doing well?
  2. Most ans­wers are in the area of 2 – 3 months, with three saying a month, one 4 months, and three sta­ting a few weeks. And com­pa­ring this to com­ments we’ve been seeing for the past year on patient groups, it’s com­mon to feel good at first, but to crash within that 2 – 3 months.

  3. What clued you in that you weren’t doing well on the new Armour?
  4. The ans­wers are all over the map: fati­gue and exhaus­tion, hair loss, brain fog, weight gain, slee­ping pro­blems, cons­ti­pa­tion, achi­ness, depres­sion, hor­mo­nal pro­blems, moo­di­ness, dry skin/elbows/thumbs and crac­king skin, fla­king fin­ger­nails, heart irre­gu­la­rity, for­get­ful­ness. Five report skin brea­kouts simi­lar to poi­son ivy.  Fati­gue and hair loss were the most com­mon answers.

  5. Did you try rai­sing it? What were the results?
  6. The majo­rity tried rai­sing it, and results were: no results; barely made any dif­fe­rence: more energy but skin was a mess. The majo­rity said nothing hap­pe­ned. Two dou­bled it with no sig­ni­fi­cant results.  Two deve­lo­ped fast heart rate with no impro­ve­ments elsewhere. One had to lower it because of a very low TSH. One sta­ted she rai­sed it to get her labs back up to where they were before…with little impro­ve­ments.  And one said it made her too hot to con­ti­nue rai­sing it.

  7. Did you try adding T3 to it? What were the results?
  8. All said no. One said she tes­ted here RT3 ratio and it was 11, which is bad.  One sta­ted she asked her doc­tor for T3; he said no. I’d sure like to find someone who did add T3 who could tell us the results.

  9. Did you do anything else to try and make the refor­mu­la­ted Armour work, and did it help?
  10. All repor­ted nothing hel­ped enough.  Many sta­ted their doc­tors tes­ted for other pro­blems, ran­ging from heavy metals, low iodine, B12 – the lat­ter hel­ped one gal’s tin­gling. One sta­ted her doc put her on Apro­to­col for the diges­tive tract which hel­ped the cons­ti­pa­tion but nothing else chan­ged. One added com­poun­ded desic­ca­ted thy­roid to her Armour — it didn’t help. One gal tried Thyro-care, which hel­ped. But she and two others report get­ting a poison-ivy like skin rash on the new Armour.

Currently, we see newly diag­no­sed patients put on the new Armour, and vete­rans can’t help but won­der what will hap­pen to them.

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On my April 17th blog post, read 10 rea­sons thy­roid patients are still frus­tra­ted, angry and sick. That is follo­wed by the April 19th blog post Should thy­roid patients avoid self-treatment at all costs, with an inte­res­ting and strong Guest Post by Sheila Tur­ner of TPA-UK and a good follo­wup to the for­mer 10 rea­sons post.

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Should thyroid patients avoid self-treatment at all costs??

(Note: this is a long post, but will be worth every penny if you read it all!)

When STTM first put out its shin­gle in Decem­ber of 2005 (with most of what you see today going up in ’06 and ’07 with con­ti­nual addi­tions),  my goal with this site was sim­ple: to edu­cate thy­roid patients.

And as I saw it, by edu­ca­ting patients on what we had been lear­ning, patients could in turn, take that infor­ma­tion into their doc­tors offi­ces and push for change. And it’s been wor­king, slowly. We now have more doc­tors than ever before who know about desic­ca­ted thy­roid and are willing to presc­ribe it, even if they are the mino­rity. STTM has a page on how to try fin­ding one of those good docs.

But as I wrote about this fact in my pre­vious post, cer­tain patients can still find them­sel­ves frus­tra­ted, angry and sick because of doc­tors. It’s not a pretty pic­ture for some.

I am lucky, as I’ve always mana­ged to have a fair doc­tor to work with, without com­pli­ca­ted issues. But a lot of patients aren’t as lucky.  They either can’t find a doc­tor to treat them correctly after trying repea­tedly, or they simply can’t afford to keep dri­ving to find a good doc (with no pro­mi­ses that they will get the good doc they des­pe­ra­tely need any­way). As a result, many thy­roid patients report being for­ced to self-treat.

Even though STTM was never crea­ted as a self-treatment site, I am aware that some patients use it that way.  And I can never con­demn them. Gran­ted, a few who make their own choice to self-treat can run into pro­blems, most espe­cially from undis­co­ve­red or undiag­no­sed low ferri­tin or low cor­ti­sol. But it’s a choice they seem to make out of desperation.

The follo­wing  post is by  Guest Blog pos­ter and UK’s thy­roid patient advo­cate Sheila Tur­ner of TPA-UK.  These are her cou­ra­geous thoughts con­cer­ning self-treatment, and her angst against anyone who tells patients not to do so.  Ove­rall, UK patients have a very tough situa­tion in the UK with doc­tors, but so do the vast majo­rity of patients around the world, as well as US patients. See what you think…

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It’s not uncom­mon to be told as a suf­fe­ring and debi­li­ta­ted thy­roid patient to never self-diagnose, never self-treat, never self-monitor.

And in an ideal world, we could take those admo­ni­tions on. But we are not living in an ideal world.

You might as well tell every­body with ill health to put up with wha­te­ver they are suf­fe­ring and leave their health in the safe hands of our ‘won­der­ful’ doc­tors whom we can trust impli­citly.  Sadly, many doc­tors have little (or no) edu­ca­tion in the wor­kings of the thy­roid system.

Or, you might just try tou­ring the country until you find one who will help. Well, if you have the energy and the money to do that, it could take a heck of a long time before fin­ding such a good doc­tor —  indeed, IF you ever find such a doctor.

I run a very suc­cess­ful Inter­net Thy­roid Sup­port group, plus web site for thy­roid disease, and I have seen at first hand (and expe­rien­ced it myself) the night­mare of having to put up with the terri­ble suf­fe­ring cau­sed by Doctors.

In the UK, for exam­ple, it is orga­ni­za­tions such as the Royal College of Phy­si­cians and the Bri­tish Thy­roid Asso­cia­tion who have terri­fied NHS doc­tors so much that they now no lon­ger presc­ribe any T3 hor­mone con­tai­ning pro­ducts, neither natu­ral nor synthe­tic, for fear of being repor­ted to the GMC  regu­la­tory body with the threat of losing their career and livelihood.

One com­ment I hear from those who con­demn self-treatment is the pro­blem of over-medicating. In rea­lity, it is the rec­kless prohi­bi­tion of all T3-containing drugs that cau­ses car­diac arrhyth­mia and risk of  sud­den death -  which would amount to at least mans­laugh­ter, and might even cons­ti­tute mur­der if the out­come is strictly fore­seea­ble - which it is. It is NOT patients who should be cri­ti­ci­zed. They have been dri­ven to buying presc­rip­tion medi­ci­nes for thy­roid and adre­nal insuf­fi­ciency. Cri­ti­ci­zing self-treatment is an outra­geous claim and one that the medi­cal regu­la­tors would no doubt be deligh­ted to hear. Seems that not only are doc­tors beco­ming sorely afraid of the Regu­la­tors, those who con­demn self-treatment are also falling into the same trap.

The “basic pre­mise” that under­lies my own pur­pose and advo­cacy is to help those being left to suf­fer because the medi­cal regu­la­tors and govern­ment are refu­sing to give a pro­per diag­no­sis — and for those who do get a diag­no­sis, giving them levothy­ro­xine sodium-only as a thy­roid hor­mone replacement.

Whe­ne­ver a new mem­ber comes to TPA, we encou­rage them to read, read and read again and to look at the infor­ma­tion in our FILES sec­tion which is there for all to see. We tell them about the asso­cia­ted con­di­tions that go along with being hypothy­roid such as low adre­nal reserve, sys­te­mic can­di­dia­sis, mer­cury poi­so­ning and ask them to request blood tests from their doc­tor to see if their levels are low in the refe­rence range for ferri­tin, vita­min B12, vita­min D3, mag­ne­sium, folate, cop­per and zinc. We have infor­ma­tion on the rea­sons they need to check these and if any of these are a pro­blem, make sure they are aware of just how essen­tial it is that they eli­mi­nate these con­di­tions, one by one, before star­ting thy­roid hor­mone repla­ce­ment – such con­di­tions are NOT auto­ma­ti­cally chec­ked by NHS doc­tors – and they put their patients at great risk by auto­ma­ti­cally presc­ri­bing levothyroxine.

We all know of the serious rami­fi­ca­tions for those patients who are not being given a correct diag­no­sis or treat­ment. Howe­ver, it is the endoc­ri­no­lo­gists and medi­cal regu­la­tors who are guilty of cau­sing much of the unne­ces­sary suf­fe­ring, not those patients who are dri­ven to self diag­nose, self treat and self moni­tor, as those who cri­ti­cize self-treatment would have us believe.

Mains­tream doc­tors do not appear to be even aware of the many com­mon and often undiag­no­sed symp­toms and dan­ge­rous con­se­quen­ces of low thy­roid. These inc­lude: serious men­tal pro­blems, sei­zu­res, heart disease, dia­be­tes inc­lu­ding mis­diag­no­sis and com­pli­ca­tions, cons­ti­pa­tion resul­ting in colon can­cer, all female pro­blems (due to high amounts of dan­ge­rous forms of oes­tro­gen), inc­lu­ding: tumours, fibroids, ova­rian cysts, PMS, endo­me­trio­sis, breast can­cer, mis­ca­rriage, heavy periods and cramps, blad­der pro­blems lea­ding to infec­tions, anae­mia, ele­va­ted CPK, ele­va­ted crea­ti­nine, ele­va­ted tran­sa­mi­na­ses, hyper­cap­nia, hyper­li­pi­de­mia, hypogly­ce­mia, hypo­na­tre­mia, hypo­xia, leu­ko­pe­nia, res­pi­ra­tory aci­do­sis and others.…

If suf­fe­rers of the symp­toms are NOT get­ting a pro­per diag­no­sis and the thy­roid hor­mone repla­ce­ment that would give them back their life and health through mains­tream doc­tors, how on earth would you recom­mend they do this, apart from scou­ring the country to find a doc­tor elsewhere who would help them, or recom­men­ding they get enough money together to see a pri­vate thy­roid spe­cia­list. Do you REALLY have such com­plete faith in the medi­cal pro­fes­sion to know that we should ALL leave our thy­roid health in their hands, sit back and do nothing – and pro­bably just wait to die? How can you recom­mend that they do NOT buy presc­rip­tion medi­ca­tions and should not self-medicate, self treat or self moni­tor when there is NO other option left open to them.

If those who cri­ti­cize self-treatment have per­so­nally heard from “DOZENS” of peo­ple who have follo­wed the “inc­rease my own dose of natu­ral thy­roid” self medi­ca­tion approach, then yes, something is seriously wrong with the ‘teachings’ or advo­cacy of such groups. Edu­ca­tion should be encou­ra­ged by all, and if mem­bers do not unders­tand the rea­sons why they need to take great care, such expla­na­tions should be given in such a way that they understand.

I rarely hear of mem­bers ending up in Emer­gency Rooms batt­ling poten­tially fatal heart arrhythmia’s, atrial fibri­lla­tion, and/or ending up in worse health than before, inc­lu­ding long-term and per­ma­nent heart damage through self-treatment. I have heard of many NHS patients being admit­ted to A and E, who had been trea­ted (or not) by mains­tream doc­tors who refu­sed them the correct the­rapy their symp­toms needed.

In good cons­cience, I do recom­mend that thy­roid patients self-diagnose, self-medicate and self-treat if they are being left to suf­fer, because orga­ni­za­tions such as the RCP, BTA TSH refe­rence range is so huge that they will never go outside of it. This refe­rence range is 0.5 to 10.0 in the UK – pro­bably the widest in the world. Then, we have to put up with the fact that the only thy­roid func­tion test that will be done is the TSH –  and doc­tors will not test Free T4 in a lot of cases, never mind free T3 level. Also, NHS Patho­logy labs refuse to test free T3 even if the doc­tor has spe­ci­fi­cally reques­ted it. So, many of us will NEVER get a pro­per diag­no­sis – being left to suf­fer their unne­ces­sary symp­toms for years and become wheelchair/bed bound in many cases, having to leave paid employment.

Such patients are told they have a ‘func­tio­nal soma­to­form disor­der’ when their TFT’s are nor­mal, when they con­ti­nue to com­plain of symp­toms – or –  those who are lucky enough to get a diag­no­sis, who are trea­ted with levothy­ro­xine only yet still com­plain of debi­li­ta­ting symp­toms are told also “you have a func­tio­nal soma­to­form disor­der” or “your symp­toms are non-specific” .

What mains­tream doc­tors do not recog­nize is that thy­roid func­tion tests ONLY test the amount of thy­roid hor­mone being sec­re­ted by the thy­roid gland.  TFT’s (more correctly should be called Thy­roid GLAND func­tion tests”, do not test to show whether there is periphe­ral resis­tance to the thy­roid hor­mo­nes at the cellu­lar level. This is not due to a lack of thy­roid hor­mo­nes sec­re­ted by the gland. Blood tests do NOT detect Type 2 hypothy­roi­dism. Type 2 is usually inhe­ri­ted. Howe­ver, envi­ron­men­tal toxins may also cause or exa­cer­bate the pro­blem. The per­va­si­ve­ness of Type 2 has yet to be recog­ni­zed by mains­tream medi­cine, but already is in epi­de­mic pro­por­tions. I think many suf­fe­rers of the symp­toms of hypothy­roi­dism know very much more than their medi­cal prac­ti­tio­ners. I do know which road I would like to follow – that is to find an exce­llent doc­tor I could trust impli­citly, but sadly, the ONLY road many of us have to follow to get back nor­mal health is the one where we have to self medicate.

Please do NOT blame patients who are dri­ven to self diag­nose and medi­cate as being the rea­son why the US govern­ment, or any other govern­ment for that mat­ter, are now eli­mi­na­ting the avai­la­bi­lity of natu­ral thy­roid and synthe­tic T3. You are being suc­ked into belie­ving what they want you to believe.

Levothy­ro­xine is a synthe­tic medi­ca­tion that can be paten­ted, and has made billions of pounds for the Big Pharma and for the regu­la­tors of hypothy­roid gui­de­li­nes. Natu­ral thy­roid pro­ducts can­not be paten­ted. Should doc­tors presc­ribe either synthe­tic or natu­ral T3, the majo­rity of suf­fe­rers of the symp­toms of hypothy­roi­dism would regain their nor­mal health – Big Pharma would suffer.

You should perhaps read the book “Dirty Medi­cine” by Mar­tin J Wal­ker if you have not already read it. Those who cri­ti­cize self-treatment appear to be accu­sing all those suf­fe­ring symp­toms of hypothy­roi­dism who have been dri­ven to buying medi­ca­tions without presc­rip­tion and self trea­ting as making it worse for the rest of those suf­fe­ring. It is NOT them who are abu­sing T3. If a T3 hor­mone con­tai­ning pro­duct was pro­perly presc­ri­bed, there would be NO NEED FOR PATIENTS TO BE SELF MEDICATING.

Self medi­ca­ting, wha­te­ver drug we are taking, whether using a T3 hor­mone con­tai­ning pro­duct or not, is always risky and patients must be fully edu­ca­ted in its use. Howe­ver, self medi­ca­ting with any drug runs risks, but I would rather self medi­cate with the chance of get­ting my health back than lea­ving my health in the hands of totally incom­pe­tent doc­tors –  incom­pe­tent because the teachers in our medi­cal schools are incompetent.

For those who are being left to die, without the treat­ment that will make them well, do-it-yourself medi­ca­tion is the only option left open to them. Would you really deny them this?  Lea­ving patients without the thy­roid hor­mone they need is appa­lling and one of the rea­sons TPA is cam­paig­ning to bring about chan­ges in the diag­no­sing and treat­ment of the symp­toms of hypothyroidism.

It can be appre­cia­ted to say to work with the right doc­tor, but what do you recom­mend if patients can­not find the ‘right’ doc­tor?? Perhaps you should all come over here to the UK and help those suf­fe­rers in fin­ding the right solu­tion and offer to help them help to find a “good doctor”.

Sadly, there are never any solu­tions given or alter­na­tive to self diag­no­sing, self-treating or self-monitoring, other than to “find a good doc­tor”. This does not help Inter­net thy­roid sup­port forum members.

Sheila
http://www.tpa-uk.org.uk/


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.

10 reasons many thyroid patients are still frustrated, angry, and sick

It’s a con­ti­nuing tra­vesty, and you see it in patient groups.

i.e. many patients still find them­sel­ves sick and disa­bled, stum­bling mise­rably from one unin­for­med doc­tor to another…in spite of the won­ders of natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid, the tes­ti­mony of chan­ged lives, the edu­ca­tion of patients thanks to the STTM web­site & book, and a small but gro­wing body of wise doc­tors who seem to be “get­ting it”,

So what’s the pro­blem?? It lays with our doc­tors and the entire medi­cal pro­fes­sion.

  1. Heavy-handed con­trol over your medi­ca­tion: You go to pick up your presc­rip­tion, and find your medi­ca­tion has been lowe­red by your doc­tor without your agree­ment or know­ledge, as hap­pe­ned to Terry here (scroll down to find her post).
  2. Igno­rance about adre­nal fati­gue and treat­ment: You clearly have an adre­nal pro­blem, and one doc­tor dis­mis­ses its exis­tence, another doc­tor poo-poos the saliva test, another doc­tor tells you cor­ti­sol sup­ple­men­ta­tion is dan­ge­rous, another doc­tor thrusts all his her­bal sup­ple­ments at you, another doc­tor thinks that 5 or 10 mg cor­ti­sol is enough…and on and on and on.
  3. Dis­mis­sing the Ferri­tin test: You want to know what your ferri­tin is, but the doctor’s nurse unders­co­res that they’ve already chec­ked your iron levels, so there’s no need for more testing.
  4. Dis­mis­sing you: You are wise thanks to rea­ding, researching and living in your own body, yet your doc­tor calls you a pro­ble­ma­tic patient on your charts, dis­mis­ses you, or gets angry.
  5. RT3 huh? You have strong sus­pi­cions that your Reverse T3 is too high thanks to adre­nal fati­gue, low ferri­tin, undiag­no­sed glu­ten issues, or other rea­sons, yet this doc­tor refu­ses to test you, that doc­tor says an RT3 excess is rare.
  6. Look at me! Look at me! You make an appoint­ment with that great doc who has a fabu­lous website/book and who shouts that he uses desic­ca­ted thy­roid with a big smile…yet any or all of the above and below occurs with him/her or his “trai­ned” associates.
  7. Con­ti­nued worship of the TSH lab test:  Too many doc­tors still think the TSH lab test is from God Almighty. So when you finally start to feel well on desic­ca­ted thy­roid with a TSH at zero or below…WHAM…you must lower your meds because you are somehow “hyper” in spite of no symp­toms to match.
  8. Phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal addicts: You men­tion your lin­ge­ring hypothy­roid symp­toms, and you are ban­dai­ded with anti-depressants, anti-anxietal meds, sta­tins, BP pills, pain tablets, acid reflux pills, cal­cium for your thin­ning bones…instead of unders­tand that these are ALL side effects of poor treat­ment or undis­co­ve­red issues.
  9. The country you live in: The des­pe­ra­tion of UK thy­roid patients is deep thanks to a thy­roid asso­cia­tion and a College of Phy­si­cians which tigh­tens the screws if a doc­tor dares to presc­ribe a life chan­ging medi­ca­tion with T3 in it.  Or just as frus­tra­ting, having a govern­ment which for­bids desic­ca­ted thy­roid to arrive to you in the mail.
  10. Refor­mu­la­tions and Big Pharma apathy: Forest Labs tur­ned one of the most popu­lar and effec­tive desic­ca­ted thy­roid brand, Armour, into a pill with too much cellu­lose and too little suc­rose , cau­sing a mas­sive return of symp­toms in many, soo­ner or later. RLC also refor­mu­la­ted their Natu­reth­roid, and though some patients still do well on it, others do mise­rably, and we are left won­de­ring WHAT to take. (Thank God for Erfa’s Cana­dian “Thy­roid”, but will we be able to con­ti­nue with this fabu­lous desic­ca­ted thy­roid product?)

And there are more rea­sons you might want to bring up in the Com­ments part of this post.

So you see, it’s no won­der so MANY patients feel for­ced to self-treat, yet they are also con­dem­ned for doing so. I refuse to con­demn them for exactly the rea­sons above.  Petty. All I ask is that we all try to find a good doc, but it may be quite hard when you con­si­der all the above.

All-in-all, we still have  a way to go, baby, and espe­cially with the doc­tors we try so hard to get help from…but can’t.

P.S. Are you brave? Walk into your doctor’s office with the STTM shirt.


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.

Question: What do most doctors & lemon cars have in common?

Ans­wer: Most are duds.

On Mon­day, I had an enjo­ya­ble expe­rience with an excep­tion to the lemon cliche:  I was a guest on Dr. Ste­ven F. Hotze’s radio pro­gram Health and Well­ness Solu­tions, broad­cast live from Hous­ton, Texas.  You can lis­ten to a recor­ding of our con­ver­sa­tion here on the lower right under the hea­ding Dr. Hotze Radio in orange.

The com­mer­cials were like flies, zeroing in often and irri­ta­tingly. But we mana­ged to briefly men­tion both Stop the Thy­roid Mad­ness as well as the Hotze Health & Well­ness Cen­ter.

And two things struck me about our friendly chat: first, Hotze men­tio­ned that he star­ted presc­ri­bing natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid in the 1990’s, far ahead of most doc­tors even today!  If only we knew.  And second, he made a quick men­tion of how disap­poin­ting most doc­tors are for patients, refe­rring to the STTM page called Give Me A Break. If you haven’t seen it, or it’s been awhile, you will find it both hila­rious and com­ple­tely sad.

And it all made me pon­der how in 2010, eight years after I per­so­nally found the life chan­ging desic­ca­ted thy­roid,  there are still so many family prac­ti­tio­ners and Endoc­ri­no­lo­gists kee­ping thy­roid patients sick all over the world, even if they mean well, even if they are good peo­ple, even if they do other diag­no­ses and treat­ments correctly.

So on one hand, it’s rea­lity that pro­gress is slow. But on the other hand, the thy­roid treat­ment wall of igno­rance is slowly tum­bling down about bet­ter thy­roid treat­ment thanks to patients who read about it and carry that infor­ma­tion into their doc­tors offices.

So perhaps over time, the lemons who prac­tice bad thy­roid treat­ment will become less and less pro­mi­nent in the name of enligh­ten­ment, wis­dom and LISTENING to patients.

P.S. And by way, if you are lucky enough to have found one of those docs who presc­ribe desic­ca­ted thy­roid, remem­ber that NO doc­tor is all-knowing. YOU live in your own body, and can have your OWN wis­dom and know­ledge. So expect the rela­tionship be a part­nership. And if you can’t get that part­nership, find a bet­ter doc­tor.

Want to read more about natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid? Go here.   To read my own story, go here.


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.
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