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Thyroid patients report despising their Endocrinologists — but here’s one you might just love!

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I once crac­ked open an egg to find it had TWO shells.  And that oddity is equi­va­lent to fin­ding an Endoc­ri­no­lo­gist who sup­ports the use of natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid. 

Voila!! ~~ you can lis­ten and talk to an Endo who does just that on this Thurs­day evening’s popu­lar THYROID PATIENT COMMUNITY CALL on TalkShoe.

His name is Dr. Gary Pep­per, Board Cer­ti­fied by the Ame­ri­can Boards of Inter­nal Medi­cine, and Endoc­ri­no­logy and Meta­bo­lism and editor-in-chief of metabolism.com.  Besi­des ser­ving many years in dis­tin­guished lea­dership posi­tions, he was selec­ted as one of the top 100 phy­si­cians in New York City by New York Maga­zine and is also a fea­tu­red expert with CNBC and ivi­llage on topics of dia­be­tes and endoc­ri­no­logy. He sta­tes:  Almost daily I reread the words of Sir William Osler: “It’s often more impor­tant to know what sort of per­son this disease has than to know what disease the per­son has.”

i.e. this is one of a rare but gro­wing breed of doc­tors who sup­ports what we as thy­roid patients already know – that desic­ca­ted thy­roid is a five-star hypothy­roid treat­ment and T4-only is about as effec­tive as a dough­nut diet for most. And lo and behold,  Dr. Pep­per is an Endoc­ri­no­lo­gist! Of course, I can give no gua­ran­tees how he is as a doc­tor in his own office, but I do appre­ciate his unders­tan­ding that T4-only treat­ment may not be the best way to treat hypo.

Join us this Thurs­day eve­ning, 6 pm Paci­fic, 7 pm Moun­tain, 8 pm Cen­tral and 9 pm Eas­tern by clic­king on the first link above tit­led Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call.  When on that page, you’ll also see the exact day and time left before the call. You’ll be able to lis­ten to the call right on your com­pu­ter, or you can dial in and lis­ten on your phone. There is also an option to talk one-on-one live with Dr. Pep­per and Janie.

And remem­ber: neither I or Dr. Pep­per can offer per­so­nal medi­cal advice or pro­vide indi­vi­dual spe­ci­fic coun­se­ling. Those are bet­ween you and your per­so­nal phy­si­cian.

***P.S.  Phar­ma­Ti­mes this month repor­ted that this quarter’s sales of  Synth­roid (levothy­ro­xine) were up 3.7% to $134 million by Abbott Labs. Sad for most of those patients. If you know of someone who has been put on a T4 med, send them here: www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/t4-only-meds-dont-work or to the audio page here: www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/audio-shorts (third one down).


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Two topics: Let’s talk iodine, plus a UK lab will analyze Armour, says Sheila of TPA-UK!

iodine_atomI con­fess that I hated my Che­mistry class in high school, even if Mr. Bowen tried to make it inte­res­ting and favo­red the girls over the boys in class.  But lo and behold, one of those ele­ments on the Perio­dic Table ended up having a sig­ni­fi­cant role in all or our lives as thy­roid patients: iodine.

Iodine can be found in every inch your body, but is espe­cially pre­va­lent in your thy­roid, which makes it an inte­res­ting ele­ment for those of us with thy­roid disease.  The active thy­roid hor­mone T3 (triio­dothy­ro­nine) is made up of three iodine mole­cu­les, and the sto­rage hor­mone T4 (thy­ro­xine) has four iodine mole­cu­les. In fact, without pro­per amounts of iodine, your thy­roid wouldn’t even func­tion well.

An opti­mal amount of iodine has also been shown to improve breast health, pro­vide can­cer pro­tec­tion, remove toxins like Bro­mide, fluo­ride, mer­cury etc…and in some cases, has hel­ped thy­roid patients either lower their dose, or even get off thy­roid treat­ment. Thy­roid patient Diana tells of get­ting off thy­roid treat­ment due to iodine on the Sto­ries of Others page.

***This Thurs­day eve­ning on the Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on TalkShoe, we’ll have guest Stepha­nie Buist, owner of the Yahoo group Iodine and a 9-year thy­roid can­cer sur­vi­vor who strongly feels iodine has been a huge fac­tor.   We’ll explore how much iodine a per­son needs, the loa­ding loa­ding test, the best sour­ces of iodine sup­ple­men­ta­tion, whether you need iodine, as well as con­tro­ver­sies with iodine use, inc­lu­ding Hashi­mo­tos disease or bad reac­tions.  Times for the call are 6 pm Paci­fic, 7 pm Moun­tain, 8 pm Cen­tral and 9 pm Eas­tern. You can lis­ten right on your com­pu­ter, or call to talk directly to Stepha­nie and Janie. Join us!

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ArmourtabletsUGH-1Sheila Tur­ner of TPA-UK  (Thy­roid Patient Advocacy-UK www.tpa-uk.org.uk) is star­ting the ball rolling on something very inte­res­ting:  they have con­tac­ted a lab in the UK who will do a qua­li­ta­tive analy­sis of the old Armour vs. the new refor­mu­la­ted Armour to get a break­down of the ingre­dients, and poten­tially give us an idea WHAT is cau­sing thy­roid patients to have a return of their hypothy­roid symp­toms since Forest refor­mu­la­ted Armour in 2009.

Howe­ver, says Sheila, this will cost in the region of £600 to £700 (appro­xi­ma­tely $1100).  Says Sheila, “If there are enough patients who are willing and able to help raise the fun­ding requi­red by giving wha­te­ver we can afford, we could finally get the ans­wer as to which chan­ges have been made in the new for­mula and whether this inc­lu­des chan­ges in the active (as some have sug­ges­ted) and the inac­tive ingre­dients and put this baby to rest once and for all.”

You can con­tact Sheila at the above web­site and make a pledge.  As I write this, they have already have £100 pledged.

UPDATE: Stepha­nie above has agree to be the ‘Pledge and Money Collec­tor’ for the lab work nee­ded to analyze the old vs new Armour . She can be con­tac­ted at ladybugsandbees@sbcglobal.net


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.

Patients and wise doctors continue to learn in leaps and bounds

IMG_2008 Just when you think we’re full of great infor­ma­tion for bet­ter thy­roid care, there’s still more to learn and find out.  Below is infor­ma­tion that you might find inte­res­ting on STTM.

ADRENALS: For those who dis­co­ve­red via the 24 adre­nal saliva test that they nee­ded cor­ti­sol sup­port, we have come to rea­lize that some can’t do the ram­ping up sche­dule from a small amount to a lar­ger amount without having pro­blems from the feed­back loop.

Ins­tead, many simply need to “start” on the higher amount, which would range from 20 – 30 mg. You can read about that on the How to Treat page, and you’ll note that not one mor­ning amount goes higher than 10 mgs.  With the excep­tion of men, higher than 10 mg seems to sup­press the ACTH and adre­nals too much.

A NEW LOOK: To make the STTM home page more unders­tan­da­ble to new­co­mers, the home page has bro­ken down the infor­ma­tion bet­ter into sepa­rate pages, and also has a new inte­res­ting way of using it.

LISTEN TO THIS INFORMATION: STTM has short audio clips you can lis­ten to, or send someone else to, to help unders­tand what this is all about.

STORIES OF OTHERS: Indi­vi­dual real-life sto­ries con­ti­nue to come in, pro­ving over and over that this revo­lu­tion for far bet­ter care really does work.

FEEDBACK and MORE FEEDBACK: I get emails daily about lives chan­ged thanks to this patient revo­lu­tion. It’s won­der­ful to see peo­ple fin­ding out WHY they have depres­sion, less sta­mina than others, rising cho­les­te­rol and blood pres­sure, hair loss plus other lin­ge­ring symp­toms of  hypothy­roi­dism left untrea­ted because of the lousy TSH, or under­trea­ted because of the equally-lousy T4-only treat­ment like Synth­roid. I can’t begin to post them all, but STTM does con­tain a sam­pling of this feed­back.

DESICCATED THYROID BRANDS: Wow, the list is gro­wing for desic­ca­ted thy­roid brands around the world! We now have lis­tings for Den­mark, Ger­many, Italy and New Zea­land, as well as more detai­led infor­ma­tion on com­poun­ded thy­roid in Aus­tra­lia. Thanks to all who contributed.

KEEPING UP WITH ADDITIONS TO STTM: In case you didn’t know, there’s a page meant to inform you of what’s added to STTM. I may neglect to list a few addi­tions occa­sio­nally, but think I’m pretty close to get­ting most of them up there.

MEDICAL RESEARCH TO PROVE WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW: Did you know that STTM has a page which com­pi­les research and stu­dies which prove what we as patients already know? It’s not loa­ded with research yet, but it’s gro­wing. And if you have found more to con­tri­bute to that page, use the Con­tact Me form.

SITE MAP: And bot­tom line, you can always go to the Site Map, or review the infor­ma­tion more com­pactly in the book, which patients are taking into their doc­tors offices.

*Want to be infor­med of these blog posts? Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the Noti­fi­ca­tions on the left at the bot­tom of the links.

*Stop the Thy­roid Mad­ness T-shirts are now 50% off! I like sales, don’t you? And by wea­ring these shirts, you’ll never know what seed you put in the mind of someone wal­king past you who’s still on Synth­roid or any other T4 meds, and doesn’t know WHY they have depres­sion, rising cho­les­te­rol, easy weight gain, the need for naps, etc. You”ll also find humo­rous bum­per stic­kers which defi­ni­tely spread the word.


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.

Tips on how to do desiccated thyroid sublingually

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Armour desic­ca­ted thy­roid by Forest Phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals used to be easy to do sublin­gually, even if the offi­cial line was they didn’t make it that way.

And patients liked that sublin­gual abi­lity with Armour.  It allo­wed them to work around the pro­blem of swa­llo­wing desic­ca­ted thy­roid seve­ral hours from having swa­llo­wed iron, estro­gen or cal­cium – all which can bind some of the thy­roid hor­mo­nes in your stomach.

It also hel­ped those with diges­tive issues, glu­ten into­le­rance or Celiac (a com­mon pro­blem for some hypothy­roid patients) by bypas­sing the stomach.

But with the newly for­mu­la­ted Armour in 2009, it became dif­fi­cult. The pill is har­der with less dex­trose and more cellu­lose.  It now fell into the ranks of all other desic­ca­ted thy­roid pills, inc­lu­ding Natu­reth­roid and other good brands, as a more dense tablet.

But no mat­ter what brand you use (espe­cially the gro­wing group of patients who are having their doc­tors switch them to Natu­reth­roid), below are tips from patients on how to con­ti­nue doing your desic­ca­ted thy­roid sublin­gually. Let your doc know, too.

1) Try adding a touch of the con­tents of a Pixie Stix under your ton­gue. It’s fla­vo­red sugar in a straw, and the sugar seems to help the tablet dis­solve sublin­gually through tis­sues under the tongue.

2) If you are using sublin­gual B12 lon­zen­ges to treat low B12, try adding it under the ton­gue with your desic­ca­ted thy­roid. The action of the sublin­gual lozenge seems to move over to the thy­roid tablet.

3) Swish warm water in your mouth before you place the tablet under your tongue.

4) Crunch up the desic­ca­ted thy­roid tablet before any of the above and before pla­cing it all under your tongue.

Also note that you can swa­llow your desic­ca­ted thy­roid. You’ll just have to make sure you don’t also have a sto­mach full of iron rich foods or cal­cium, or estro­gen. Gene­rally, it’s best to take your tablet 4 hours from any of the for­mer. P.S. See com­ments below on the newly for­mu­la­ted Armour, and farther down, a post on Naturethroid.

*Have more sublin­gual ideas or expe­rien­ces? Share it in the Com­ments section.

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  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.

UK’s Royal College of Physicians continues to be deaf, blind and royally dumb.

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Funny how things work. I had been won­de­ring what the heck was going on with thy­roid patients in the UK after the Royal College of Phy­si­cians (RCP) came out with their February 6th gui­de­line sta­ting that 1) thy­ro­xine was the only medi­ca­tion nee­ded for hypothy­roi­dism, 2) “natu­ral” medi­ca­tions were dan­ge­rous and 3) the only labs nee­ded are the TSH and T4.

All the above goes totally against the life-changing expe­rience of a gro­wing body of patients.

Equally a part of this B-grade horror movie is the stand taken by the Bri­tish Thy­roid Asso­cia­tion (BTA).  Read it. And UK-TPA thy­roid patient advo­cate Sheila Tur­ner began to go through her own hell when her Armour was taken away, which you can read about in the February 20th blog post here.

And sud­denly, I get an email from Sheila, infor­ming me that the RCP stand is as bad as it was three months ago for her and other thy­roid patients.

Sheila sta­tes: This is abso­lu­tely unbe­lie­va­ble that out of the hun­dreds of refe­ren­ces we sent to the Royal College of Phy­si­cians to show their gui­de­line to be fla­wed, they have taken no account of one sin­gle one of them. They are publishing their pre­vious gui­dance without one since change. The world has gone mad.

Dear Sheila, Further to my email of 6 April, the com­ments and mate­rials recei­ved by the College have been revie­wed. This posi­tion sta­te­ment or gui­dance (not a gui­de­line) was pro­du­ced on behalf of the Royal College of Phy­si­cians, in par­ti­cu­lar its Patient and Carer Net­work and the Joint Spe­cialty Com­mit­tee for Endoc­ri­no­logy and Dia­be­tes; the Asso­cia­tion for Cli­ni­cal Bioche­mistry; the Society for Endoc­ri­no­logy; the Bri­tish Thy­roid Asso­cia­tion; the Bri­tish Thy­roid Foun­da­tion Patient Sup­port Group and the Bri­tish Society of Pae­dia­tric Endoc­ri­no­logy and Dia­be­tes and is endor­sed by The Royal College of Gene­ral Prac­ti­tio­ners. The Pre­si­dent has asked me to let you know that this review has not resul­ted in any chan­ges to that sta­te­ment.  It should be noted that it is about the treat­ment of pri­mary hypothy­roi­dism and does not prec­lude other treat­ments for excep­tio­nal cases by spe­cia­list endoc­ri­no­lo­gists who can make clear to patients any asso­cia­ted risks. Refe­ren­ces sup­por­ting the sta­te­ment are lis­ted below. Yours sin­ce­rely, Catha­rine Perry Admi­nis­tra­tor •   Diag­no­sis and treat­ment of pri­mary hypothy­roi­dism. BMJ 2009;338:b725 •   Vaidya B, Pearce S. A Cli­ni­cal Review of the mana­ge­ment of hypothy­roi­dism in adults. BMJ 2008;337:a801. This con­tains refe­ren­ces for 35 artic­les and sta­tes that Armour thy­roid is of no pro­ved addi­tio­nal bene­fit to levothy­ro­xine. • The Lan­cet Volume 363, Issue 9411, Pages 793 — 803, 6 March 2004.  This covers the his­tory, epi­de­mio­logy, pathophy­sio­logy, and cli­ni­cal diag­no­sis and mana­ge­ment of hypothy­roi­dism and is writ­ten by Caro­line GP Roberts and Paul Laden­son of Johns Hop­kins Uni­ver­sity School of Medi­cine, Bal­ti­more, USA.  This review, which refe­ren­ces 164 cli­ni­cal artic­les, sta­tes that the treat­ment of choice for hypothy­roi­dism is levothy­ro­xine sodium (thy­ro­xine) and does not refer to Armour thy­roid. •  Baloch Z, Cara­yon P, Conte-Devolx B, et al. Labo­ra­tory medi­cine prac­tice gui­de­li­nes. Labo­ra­tory sup­port for the diag­no­sis and moni­to­ring of thy­roid disease.Thyroid 2003;13:3 – 126. •  Asso­cia­tion of Cli­ni­cal Bioche­mists BTA, Bri­tish Thy­roid Foun­da­tion. UK Gui­de­li­nes for the use of thy­roid func­tion tests. http://acb.org.uk/docs/tftguidelinefinal.pdf •  Surks MI. Ortiz E, Daniels GH, et al. Subc­li­ni­cal thy­roid disease: scien­ti­fic review and gui­de­li­nes for diag­no­sis and mana­ge­ment. 2004;291:228 – 238.

And as your peruse the six refe­ren­ces above which they use to defend their tunnel-visioned, moro­nic posi­tion, you rea­lize that you, your words, and your positive-outcome expe­rience on desic­ca­ted thy­roid, as well as the use of far bet­ter labs, is about as impor­tant within the UK’s latest medi­cal pro­noun­ce­ment as is dirt on the bot­tom of a rus­ted buc­ket in the middle of an empty field in nowhere. Yup.

Or as Harold Ship­man sta­ted about the RCP’s gui­de­li­nes: What a bri­lliant wheeze.

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See below on the poten­tial impor­tance of potas­sium in your health and well-being. And on the May 7th post about the party being over with Forest Phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals, com­ments con­ti­nue to come in about expe­rien­ces with the “new” Armour.


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.
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