I have a 40-something rela­tive who I’ve been get­ting to know bet­ter lately. When she found out I had writ­ten the STTM book, she got a copy and read it. Her eyes were appa­rently wide as to what she was rea­ding, espe­cially the Thy­roid Sti­mu­la­ting Hooey chap­ter. Turns out she has had fati­gue pro­blems for at least 14 years, right after her daugh­ter was born. And it shows in her eyes and demea­nor. But that’s not all. She’s con­ti­nually gai­ned weight all these years, even though she eats like a bird, and enough depres­sion to warrant an anti-depressant. She was also get­ting worried about her cho­les­te­rol. Typi­cal hypothy­roid symptoms.

And worse (any­body iden­tify with this?), she’s been told she is NORMAL for 14 years!!! Why? Because the TSH lab result said so. Tal­king about it brings her to tears. 

I sent her to a MUCH bet­ter and hope­ful doctor. 

In 2006, the World Health Orga­ni­za­tion defi­ned health as a state of com­plete phy­si­cal, men­tal and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infir­mity. So…if you stuck “nor­mal” in front of that defi­ni­tion of health, as igno­rant doc­tors so rou­ti­nely tell us we are, it means that we have the symp­toms expec­ted of one who is in com­plete phy­si­cal, men­tal and social well-being. THEN WHY DON’T WE FEEL THAT WAY?????

Yes­si­rree, somewhere along the medi­cal pers­pec­tive time­line, the abi­lity to pay atten­tion to CLINICAL PRESENTATION ran right down the sewer. And with that loss has come HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of patients world­wide with the schi­zoph­re­nic diag­no­sis of “nor­mal” with raging symp­toms thanks to ink spots on a piece of paper called the erro­neous TSH range. Exactly why this web­site is neces­sary, as is the book and YOUR demands for bet­ter treatment. 

I was schi­zoph­re­ni­cally nor­mal for over 17 years. My rela­tive has been for 14. How about YOU?

6 Responses to “If this is normal, I’m not impressed”

  1. Susan Florence said:

    May 16, 08 at 5:13 pm

    Please know that you are RIGHT ON!
    I feel like a fool. My gyn presc­ri­bed me Nature-Throid (simi­lar to Armour). Although I had many symp­toms you list here, I became afraid, because, when I asked for my labs, they were com­ple­tely nor­mal.
    So.… I went to an endo. He took me off the meds, because of the labs. I am now far worse than ever before. Before I had about four of the symp­toms. Now I have prac­ti­call ALL of them. So.… The endo (who ori­gi­nally said he pre­fe­rred Synth­roid, drew a whole dia­gram to explain why) has now put me BACK ON NATUR-THROID, and this after the most pain­ful, upset­ting 8 weeks of my entire, long life!
    Thank you for infor­ming peo­ple about what you know so well.

  2. Theresa Roberts said:

    May 17, 08 at 6:28 am

    I can sooooo relate to your sto­ries. I was hyper many years ago (oh the brain fog, late 80’s or very early 90’s, figu­red out recently it was Grave’s) after having my third child. Seve­ral months of anti-thyroid med’s later, I ended up hypo. My GP thought I was ade­qua­tely trea­ted for 12 – 15 years with ever inc­rea­sing doses of $ynth­roid. Need­less to say I gai­ned weight (40 – 60 lbs), blood pres­sure ele­va­ted, fre­quent bouts with ane­mia, horren­dous aller­gies deve­lo­ped, qua­lity of life went down the tubes. With no energy to do much else, I went online and found this site and the about. com site. It has been a reve­la­tion to me! 

    When I first asked my dr about T3, I got a lec­ture about why is was unne­ces­sary and bad for me. I asked to see an endo, but it took many months before he presc­ri­bed desic­ca­ted thy­roid. He left me on a low star­ting dose too long (3 months), and it has been a long slow road to reco­very. In January this year, after a little over a year on it, I joi­ned Cur­ves to try and boost my meta­bo­lism and get my heart healthy again. I haven’t lost much weight (no energy to diet yet, and don’t think res­tric­ting calo­ries would help the still strug­gling meta­bo­lism), but I am buil­ding muscle and have lost about 18″ so far. I feel no pain after exer­tion now, just a plea­sant tired­ness. Coin­ci­den­tally, I star­ted to suf­fer weak­ness shortly after joi­ning, and came to sus­pect ane­mia. Taking iron sup­ple­ments seems to be hel­ping. I’m not all the way back yet, but I shud­der to think what life would be like without the infor­ma­tion I found here. 

    Jane’s book is awe­some! I just got it this week, and I’m still poring over it. There is a light at the end of the tun­nel! And it’s a shame that we have to beg our doc­tors and feel like shrill har­pies to get the help we deserve! This is a no-brainer! How can we get doc­tors to lis­ten and see what is right in front of them?

  3. Jan Hughes said:

    Jun 01, 08 at 8:34 am

    I am seriously about to walk out on my family because I/they can’t live this way any more and (I’m serious here) harm myself in some way to finally be taken seriously, but I’ll likely just be for­ced into a psych ward somewhere where I have no con­trol and they won’t do the pro­per inves­ti­ga­tion ‘just cause I say so’ any­ways. I’ll just be labe­led, maybe even kept there against my will need­lessly. I’ve had over 30 years of real crap, over 20 of it repea­ting myself over and over to my md and all thy­roid tests coming back nor­mal. All that’s mis­sing in the hypothy­roid posts and books writ­ten by experts is my photo on the front. Yet last week my md flatly refu­sed to send me to an endoc­ri­no­lo­gist –wanna know what she actually said? She said, “They don’t deal with this, if you were having trou­ble get­ting preg­nant, that’s what I would send you for.” Because the repea­ted thy­roid tests have been nor­mal. She wrote me off long ago as having gene­ra­li­zed depres­sion and anxiety and that’s been it. Over a dozen anti-depressant meds that didn’t work out, a mini­mal dose of daily Clo­na­ze­pam that I’m addic­ted to, and thou­sands of dollars was­ted over the years on the­ra­pies and coun­se­ling I had to fully pay for, I go home and get on the Net, and what do I see EVERYWHERE? That’s PRECISELY what endos spe­cia­lize in –the pitui­tary, adre­nal, thy­roid, and all other hor­mo­nes as well. I just read yet another thy­roid book, The Thy­roid Solu­tion by an endo in Hous­ton that peo­ple tra­vel thou­sands of miles to see. So much of it that’s true for me I am stun­ned to read more that I didn’t know –the stuff in my family aside from a hypothy­roid mom, -(she and I both lost 50% of the hair on our heads, I grew excess on my face), my PCO, the panic attacks/depression, cog­ni­tive pro­blems impairment/, even the high inci­dence of addic­tion that runs in my bio­lo­gi­cal family? All there in the book, and more. I have fibrom­yal­gia (diag­no­sed by 3 natu­ro­paths –my md doesn’t think I have it), IBS, severe mens­trual pain and PMS, post-traumatic stress disor­der symp­toms for many years (I am now lucky to leave the house), my thy­roid is now enlar­ged which cau­ses me a sore throat and hoarse voice.I went for blood tests Thurs­day and don’t have them back yet, July 9th is the soo­nest for an ultra­sound. What really bothers me is rea­ding in the book over and over again, “After suf­fe­ring for over a year/2years etc., her life in sham­bles, so-and-so finally got the help she nee­ded”, that it IS very pos­si­ble that all this star­ted when I was a teen as I sus­pec­ted, and that pro­lon­ged con­di­tions (what would you call 36 years)really can affect the heart and the brain, some­ti­mes per­ma­nently. I’m get­ting a new md, and I found a Dr. Leo­nard Diren­feld in Scar­bo­rough highly recom­men­ded on the “Best Thy­roid Doc­tors in Canada” pos­tings and will call his office Mon­day. Someone pos­ted that they wai­ted 4 weeks to see him which doesn’t sound too unu­sual to see a spe­cia­list, but to tell you the truth, (and I’m sure everyone’s an ‘urgent’ case), I will have lost my family by then. If my md presc­ri­bes anything, I simply don’t want to go through the T4 only, auto­ma­tic Synth­roid etc. trial/going back & forth with my md non­sense. I would give anything to see Dr. Diren­felf asap.

  4. Lee, Yorktown Virginia said:

    Jun 11, 08 at 10:05 am

    Thank­fully, it has only been three years for me. I’m up to 100 mg Amrour sublin­gually now. On each dose inc­rease, my symp­toms go away for about two weeks, and then begin to creep back. But what a joy to have a cou­ple weeks of fee­ling 95% per­cent nor­mal again. Hope­fully, I will arrive at the opti­mal dose soon. My heart rate is still 45 to 50, and has not bud­ged, and I am not ath­le­tic, though I am very slim. My big­gest symp­toms have been IBS, FMS, and CFS. It was a beau­ti­ful day when I could eat without pain again. The days became even brigh­ter when my pain spots stop­ped paining.

  5. Shirley said:

    Jul 07, 08 at 12:08 pm

    My pro­blems star­ted in the early nine­ties. Both my sons were around five years old. I deve­lo­ped Fibrom­yal­gia, although get­ting to that diag­no­sis was a horri­fic expe­rience, itself. I was mis­diag­no­sed with a form of rheu­ma­toid arth­ri­tis that goes unde­tec­ted by x-ray or blood work. A repu­ta­ble rheu­ma­to­lo­gist put me on Fel­dene and Pred­ni­sone for six months. It did no good. In the inte­rim, I gai­ned 60 pounds. The vicious circle of low self-esteem cou­pled with depres­sion cau­sed me to no lon­ger care about how I loo­ked. Soon, I was up to 100 pounds hea­vier. I am now 175 pounds over­weight. Since that time and beco­ming pro­gres­si­vely worse, I have extre­mely low energy, I have trou­ble put­ting sen­ten­ces together due to a thou­sand thoughts racing through my head at one time, I’ve deve­lo­ped asthma and my aller­gies have become worse — basi­cally anything I had wrong with me ini­tially has been ampli­fied unbe­lie­vably. My once gor­geous mane of hair is now thin and brittle. I have ver­ti­cal cracks in two of my molars from stress-clenching. I have TMJ. Everything hurts 24/7. I have trou­ble get­ting up stairs. I have trou­ble clea­ning. I have trou­ble coo­king. I have trou­ble sit­ting and stan­ding. I have been mis­diag­no­sed with ADD. I have recently been diag­no­sed with bipo­lar disor­der and put on lithium and Lamic­tal. For the first 6 weeks, I felt like a new per­son. Now, I feel like dying. As with every anti­de­pres­sant I have ever been on (and I do believe I’ve been on them all), I feel great for the first month and then they cease to work. It wasn’t until recently, my “bor­der­line low” thy­roid level was brought to my atten­tion by MY PSYCHIATRIST and not my pri­mary care phy­si­cian, who had my labs because she wan­ted to see my lithium levels. I just tur­ned forty. I have lite­rally lost 20 years of my life to wha­te­ver is going on with me. I have an appoint­ment with an endoc­ri­no­lo­gist on Fri­day. I know what to ask. I know to bring a com­ple­ted chec­klist. I made sure to have all my medi­cal records sent over there ahead of time. My hus­band is coming with me. I will be taking com­plete notes. I am not going to allow another doc­tor to mis­diag­nose me just to shut me up. I will never get the past 20 years back but I’ll be dam­ned if I’m going to sac­ri­fice the next 20. I’ve been taking mag­ne­sium sup­ple­ments to try to weed out a mag­ne­sium defi­ciency. While it has hel­ped some, it hasn’t era­di­ca­ted any of my symptoms.

    Rea­ding the pre­vious four sto­ries and rea­ding pretty much the rest of this site, I am deter­mi­ned now more than ever to stand up for myself and not believe a doc­tor just because he’s a doc­tor. I truly wish none of us had to go through this. We’ve all lost valua­ble time, some have lost their fami­lies and others have waning sanity. There is no excuse for this espe­cially since the medi­cal tech­no­logy is in place to pre­vent or treat any and all symp­toms by trea­ting their host. Thanks to all of you, espe­cially Janie for this no-holds-barred site. I feel like there is real hope where there has only been false hope.

  6. Donna F. Smith, Ph.D. said:

    Mar 07, 09 at 11:36 pm

    Refe­rence: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2008/05/16/normal/

    I just read the com­ments at the above site, and me makes me both sad and angry for all the peo­ple who are mis­lead by well-meaning, but misin­for­med experts. What I will share with you has been the result of hel­ping peo­ple with dys­func­tions of the thy­roid, adre­nals, sex hor­mo­nes, etc., since 1981, and in doing so I have lear­ned something ever­yone needs to know. 

    Mine­rals trans­port hor­mo­nes (thy­roid, adre­nal, sex hor­mo­nes, etc.) to the cells. The thy­roid can be func­tio­ning nor­mally, yet if the per­son has defi­cien­cies in the spe­ci­fic mine­rals that trans­port the thy­roid hor­mo­nes from the glands (same with adre­nals and sex glands), the hor­mo­nes that do not get to the cells will collect in the blood. They are taken to the blood to be fil­te­red by liver and exc­re­ted through the kid­neys. This is a bio­lo­gi­cal pro­cess for eli­mi­na­ting what the body can­not use. When the hor­mo­nes get trans­por­ted to the blood for this pur­pose, it cau­ses imba­lan­ces in thy­roid levels (it can raise or lower TSH, T3, T4 and FTI, res­pec­ti­vely). If at that moment, a per­son has a blood test done by their MD, the MD will see this imba­lance and imme­dia­tely assume that it is a glan­du­lar pro­blem. The MD then will diag­nose hypo or hyper func­tion of the gland, presc­ribe a drug for it, as in the case of Synth­roid for hypothy­roid. Con­se­quently, the drug inter­fe­res with a per­fectly healthy func­tio­ning gland, which in times cau­ses the gland to become dys­func­tio­nal, even disea­sed, and the real cause con­ti­nues, also making the con­di­tion worse and goes on unde­tec­ted. This is why so many con­ti­nue to have pro­blems and create more pro­blems for them­sel­ves when they take the drug, or take sup­ple­ments such as Armour or other thy­roid sup­ple­ments — the real cause is not being addres­sed. So though the per­son may feel ini­tially bet­ter (which is due to the sti­mu­la­tion of the gland) once the gland has dealt as best it can with this source of sti­mu­la­tion or mani­pu­la­tion (drug or sup­ple­ment), it tries again to com­mu­ni­cate to the per­son (via the symp­toms sur­fa­cing again) that the real pro­blem has not been addres­sed. So the per­son goes back to fee­ling fati­gued or wha­te­ver their ori­gi­nal symp­toms were. Please note, my refe­ren­ced to Armour is not saying anything against the sup­ple­ment, just that if the cause is not glan­du­lar, but mine­ral defi­cien­cies, Armour will not help in the long-term.

    Addi­tio­nally, when a man or woman goes through meno­pause (fe)or andro­pause (male), the thy­roid and adre­nals are bac­kup glands for pro­du­cing sex hor­mo­nes. Howe­ver, most peo­ple have exhaus­ted thy­roid and adre­nals glands by the time they reach this time of life. This cau­ses even further dys­func­tion of these glands and more seve­rity of symptomology.

    Taking a mul­ti­ple mine­ral sup­ple­ment is not the ans­wer and can make the above worse. I could write a whole article on minerals. 

    Before taking any sup­ple­ment, it is best to have your nutri­tio­nal bioche­mistry tes­ted to find out exactly what you are defi­cient or exces­sive in — there are spe­ci­fic tests for vita­min defi­cien­cies and others for mine­ral deficiencies.


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