depression1 When I  was ten years old, my mother had elec­tric shock treatment.

The memory stands out in my mind like a bea­con. And when my Dad brought her home, he took me aside and explai­ned that my mama was not going to remem­ber where things are for awhile, and we’d have to help her. That was espe­cially true with the 4-legged sewing basket.

She even­tually regai­ned her memory. But she was never again the same bright and quick wit­ted mother I used to have when I was younger.

Why was shock treat­ment done?  To coun­ter her mys­te­rious ongoing and disa­bling depres­sion.  And this was her last option.

It didn’t work.

She lived on anti-depressants, spe­ci­fi­cally a high dose of Ela­vil, the rest of her com­pro­mi­sed life.

And more than 40 years later, about a year after her death, a change in my own life with Armour hel­ped me rea­lize why she had to be depen­dent on an anti-depressant for so many years:  Synth­roid.  My mother was on Synth­roid almost her entire adult life — a medi­ca­tion, along with Levoxyl, Levothy­ro­xine, Unith­roid, Eltro­xin, Leva­xin, Nor­ton, Eutro­sig  and Oro­xine, which lea­ves nearly all patients with lin­ge­ring hypothy­roid symp­toms, inc­lu­ding one of the most com­mon one:  chro­nic on-going depression.

And a large body of doc­tors all around the world just don’t get it.

What brought this memory of my mother up in my mind? Because two days ago, I chat­ted with a gal on Synth­roid.   By all appea­ran­ces, she see­med to be doing well, as some will make you think.  She said she had enough energy, wasn’t losing her hair, and felt okay. But when I pro­bed dee­per, she admit­ted that her blood pres­sure was going too high (as hap­pe­ned to my mother on a T4-only med) and she had a pro­blem with depres­sion and was on Well­bu­trin.  Bingo.

See http://biopsychiatry.com/hypothyroidism.htm which is also here: http://www.theannals.com/cgi/content/abstract/34/10/1142

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8 Responses to “My mother had serious long-term depression. Can you guess why?”

  1. ibeji said:

    Mar 31, 09 at 2:44 am

    Slightly off-topic:
    An inte­res­ting novel to read is Robert M. Pirsig’s “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Main­te­nance”.
    It appears from this book that the author has under­gone elec­tric shock the­rapy as well, in order to treat men­tal ill­ness.
    And don’t worry, the book is not very tech­ni­cal and not so much about motorcyc­les, actually. It is more about phi­lo­sophy and his­tory (ancient greek), a story about father and son, a motorcycle trip through the Rocky Moun­tains, about ghosts of the past, and reco­very.
    Enjoy!

  2. ibeji said:

    Mar 31, 09 at 3:54 am

    Dear Janie,
    I am very sorry about what hap­pe­ned with your mom.
    You must pro­bably feel espe­cially devas­ta­ted by the fact that you dis­co­ve­red what might have pre­ven­ted her pre­ma­ture death (and saved her from her ill­ness) too late.
    I wish you hea­ling from what I ima­gine must be an intense suf­fe­ring for you.
    All my best wishes to you!
    P.S.: I think your mom would be very proud of you, seeing how much you give to other suf­fe­rers (thy­roid patients) like her, through your advo­cacy. She cer­tainly knows that what you are giving to us, was meant for her!

  3. Dona said:

    Apr 02, 09 at 10:46 pm

    I was taking Armor Raw Thy­roid, and also had a her­nia, and spas­tic colon all *stress rela­ted issues* but was given Zanex fot the colon and became addic­ted and when I flip­ped it was said to look like Bipo­lar. I fell for it and lost 13 years of my life and my chil­dren to the insa­nity that comes with psycho­trophic drugs. I am hea­led and off the drugs and the merry go round that is *modern medi­cine* and last sum­mer lear­ned my thy­roid was etrea­mely low, as was my Iodine, and am stil trying to regain my strenght.I had to request Armor Thy­roid over Syn­troid, and this should be taken with Vtm C
    What looks like depres­sion, and almost all con­ven­tio­nal medi­cal doc­tors treat with mind alte­ring drugs, for far too many is thy­roid based, hea­vey metal poi­son based and has not roots in the brain; more the poc­kets of Big Pharma, and the God want bees= MDs with majors in psychia­trity. Many think a woman has no value after child bea­ring age. Woe are they!
    My NP told me in 2004 to con­si­der EST as it had come along way! I just gla­red at her, and would never have con­si­de­red it, and knew she was loo­ney to even sug­gest it[she left her prac­ti­ceand now teaches!]
    each and every thing must be eli­mi­na­ted before media­tions are even con­si­deed and I strongly sug­gest fin­ding a Natrua­path, and lea­ving the toxic drugs and ani­quai­ted medi­cal stan­dards that are depri­ving far too many of us a long and healthy life. Research and ask around for per­so­nal insight, BEFORE you do anything„,

  4. Loretta said:

    Apr 03, 09 at 1:50 pm

    Janie,
    Sorry about your mother. She would be very proud of what you are doing today — remem­ber that!

    I used to work in a Men­tal Health depart­ment years ago and it really sad­dens me to think about how many of these indi­vi­duals who are pre­sen­ting as “depressed” — and some that are actually in pyschia­tric hos­pi­tals — might have undiag­no­sed thy­roid disease and not need to be on these heavy duty psycho­tro­pic drugs that they are presc­ri­bed. I’ve often dis­cus­sed this with the direc­tor of Men­tal Health in the county I work for, but of course, they don’t want to hear it. I just feel for some of these “lost” souls that are really suf­fe­ring and all it might take is some Armour Thy­roid, etc.., to get them to feel bet­ter. Sad. 

    Any­way, keep up the good work! This web­site has hel­ped me so much on my jour­ney to good health. I’m not quite there yet, but I’m on my way.

    Loretta

  5. Laura said:

    Apr 12, 09 at 12:59 pm

    Janie,
    I am sorry to hear of your mom’s strug­gles. My mother died when I was six yrs old and I believe she had thy­roid pro­blems too. She had all the clas­sic symp­toms: depres­sion, over­weight, etc. She ulti­ma­tely died at age 47. We were all told a heart attack, but I’m not buying it. I brought her records to a car­dio­lo­gist and he belie­ves it was not a heart attack or heart disease. I know in my heart that it was (at least in part) her thy­roid. It was back in the 70’s and women were all but neglec­ted back then. Actually we are now. She had heart fai­lure and I swear it had something to do with her thy­roid. I can’t be sure but it kills me to think that it could have been avoi­ded had she been trea­ted pro­perly. When I look at pic­tu­res of her, I swear she has a goi­ter. Maybe I’m crazy because I have been strug­gling with my hypothy­roid issues for years. I don’t know. If all works out I will be on Armour come May. If not, my search for an unders­tan­ding doc to save my life will con­ti­nue.
    Laura

  6. Jan said:

    Apr 20, 09 at 5:45 pm

    I just wan­ted to add that in our family we have gene­ra­tions of women who suf­fe­red depres­sion, and bad health. Some of them were trea­ted with T4 meds, some were not. My mother was sick for most all of my childhood with depres­sion, moods, and host of other health pro­blems all rela­ted to thy­roid. She ended up with a his­to­rec­tomy, had gall sto­nes, high cho­les­te­rol, the list went on. Not to men­tions being 70 pounds over­weight. Her weight yo yo-ed all over the place, he hair fell out and still they said nothing was wrong.
    She finally got synth­roid 10 years ago, which didn’t do much. After I had my first child my thy­roid went. It got worse with my second child. I then began to see the same symp­toms in myself, that I had seen in my mother and grand­mother and other family mem­bers. I also began to see them in my own daugh­ter. She began suf­fe­ring from depres­sion and fati­gue at age 11. Of course, no one wan­ted to believe us. I finally con­vin­ced her doc­tor to run labs and sure enough she had hashi’s. When my daugh­ter was put on Armour, it chan­ged her life. At 13 years old she no lon­ger suf­fers hair loss, depres­sion, fati­gue etc. I put myself on Armour because I could not stand to be sick any lon­ger. I now see a goi­ter in my mother and sis­ter and we are wor­king to get them on Armour. It is sad that in this modern day, peo­ple have to suf­fer from depres­sion that is purely endoc­rine in nature. There is nothing wrong with our brains, it’s our thyroids.

  7. Ute said:

    May 12, 09 at 8:00 am

    I am very sorry to hear about your mom’s suf­fe­ring. The oath says “First do NO harm” = this sure was totally igno­red in your mom’s case.…:-(

    I have a simi­lar story about my mother in law. In her later years I sus­pec­ted she may be suf­fe­reing from low thy­roid func­tion and encou­ra­ged her to talk to her doc­tor in Ger­many about it. I even gave her a note once to give to her doc­tor out­li­ning why I thought she might have it and should be tested.

    Nothing was ever done. Then she was diag­no­sed with Alzhei­mers and low and behold 6 months after that some doc­tor finally found her low thy­roid function. 

    By the it seems it was too late to turn her around and who knows, they may have also trea­ted her with the old standby drug — Synthroid.

    To this day I believe that the mis­diag­no­sed Hypothy­roi­dism even­tually lead to her current con­di­tion. She’s in her own little world now and I hope from the bot­tom of my heart that she’s con­tent there.

    On a side note, I think some of the true men­tal disor­ders may be cau­sed by para­si­tes. Para­si­tes have been known to alter thin­king in host spe­cies. It is quite pos­si­ble that some humans might be affec­ted that way too .

  8. Jen said:

    Jun 11, 09 at 12:03 pm

    Hi, I am also sorry about your Mom’s strug­gle with depression. 

    While I am in the midst of trying to find a help­ful doc, I do relate on two levels– first, my mother over­do­sed at age 49 in 1996, when I was 21. She had alcohol & drug pro­blems off and on. She was very moody also, but so unhappy.

    I began with depres­sion in my teens and star­ted on the first of (god knows how many) anti­de­pres­sant & anti­de­pres­sant ‘cock­tails’ until last year, when I figu­red there had to really be something wrong, as not only was I depres­sed and unres­pon­sive to every medi­ca­tion– I was get­ting sick nearly every week. I took myself off of Effe­xor, which as some peo­ple may know, is pure hell.

    I was tes­ted for Hypo in February of this year (with the TSH btw) and when I star­ted rea­ding these lists of the terri­ble symp­toms of hypo, I could not ima­gine WHY so many doc­tors & psychia­trists would not look for a Thy­roid con­di­tion in chro­nic depres­sed patients. But I get it, it’s because the treat­ment for psychia­tric ill­ness is big busi­ness– there are new meds intro­du­ced EVERY year– I just saw a com­mer­cial for a new one, and the symp­toms they desc­ribe are some of the same exact symp­toms of Hypo. I am not saying that depres­sion alone is not a serious issue, it so is. 

    Many peo­ple are suf­fe­ring need­lessly– put on all these medi­ca­tions, and told by doc­tors they are bipo­lar, or ‘unres­pon­sive’ to the psycho­tro­pics meds.

    I am sorry for ram­bling here, but when I know I am not living up to my full poten­tial because of a very easily trea­ted con­di­tion, and have spent so many years and thou­sands of dollars on meds and the­rapy that did not help, well to me there is something wrong here. 

    I thank you for your site, and all the info you put out here, so that peo­ple can get the help that they des­pe­ra­tely need. 

    Thanks for lis­te­ning, and I hope to be one of those ‘ins­pi­ring sto­ries’ of someone who was finally able to get lif­ted out of this terri­ble depres­sion through pro­per treatment.


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