July 17, 2009

The follo­wing com­ment by RLC Labs, a phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal which has made desic­ca­ted thy­roid like Natu­reth­roid since the 1930’s, was sent in a let­ter to a phar­macy. You may find it inte­res­ting as com­pa­red to pro­blems so many have repor­ted with Forest Labs and the newly for­mu­la­ted Armour:

We have never had any man­da­tory or volun­tary recall of any of our thy­roid medi­ca­tions due to incon­sis­tency in dosa­ges. Our for­mu­la­tion and pre­pa­ra­tion is able to sta­bi­lize the T3 and T4 hor­mo­nes through its entire expiry period (3 years from manu­fac­tu­ring) pro­vi­ding addi­tio­nal assu­rance to both phy­si­cian and patient alike in qua­lity and con­sis­tency of our strengths.

Kudos for RLC Labs and Natu­reth­roid! Patients whose lives have chan­ged ten-fold thanks to desic­ca­ted thy­roid need a good pro­duct. (And we’re going to hope down the line that “someone” will create desic­ca­ted thy­roid in a sublin­gual form.)

P.S. If you don’t know what has hap­pe­ned to Armour and patient expe­rien­ces with it, scroll down.

*Want to be infor­med of these blog posts? Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Just use the Noti­fi­ca­tions to the left and below the links.

*SALE! Stop the Thy­roid Mad­ness T-shirts are now 50% off just because I like sales. A great way to spread the word about our patient revo­lu­tion for the supe­rio­rity of desic­ca­ted thy­roid over T4-only meds. You’ll also see funny bum­per stic­kers. Also…when you order the STTM book and request it,  you get a Cal­vin peeing on.…(you’ll see) bum­per stic­ker for FREE, and it’s a hoot.

  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.

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30 Responses to “Thyroid tidbit: interesting comment from makers of Naturethroid”

  1. Laura said:

    Jul 17, 09 at 9:44 am

    OOh, I would LOVE to have one of those bum­per stic­kers. I didn’t get one with my book when I orde­red it last year! LOL

    I asked for a got a script for Nature Throid today. Sure is nice to read that they seem to be a very relia­ble com­pany and have not had any potency issues with their pro­duct. I like that a lot.

    I star­ted on the new Armour last week and noti­ced a dif­fe­rence in a few days. I’ve come too far in the last cou­ple of years to go back­ward. Thank you, Janie, for everything you do.

  2. Elaine said:

    Jul 17, 09 at 3:05 pm

    As des­si­ca­ted thy­roid users, what could we do as a grass­roots group to per­suade a phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal like RLC labs to deve­lop and mar­ket a sugar-based, sublin­gual form of des­si­ca­ted thy­roid? It seems to me that these folks are una­ware of the many peo­ple who use/used it that way, and might appre­ciate fin­ding out another mar­ke­ta­ble appli­ca­tion / pro­duct for their busi­ness. I know the Docs I’ve been to and the phar­ma­cist I use have been una­ware that des­si­ca­ted thy­roid could be taken in that fashion. and from what I read here, they cer­tainly are NOT the only ones.

    So who do we talk to to let them know there’s a mar­ket out here for a sublin­gual des­si­ca­ted thy­roid product?

    Eventhough we live in the “Infor­ma­tion Age” it is remar­ka­ble what infor­ma­tion never makes it to the ears of those who have the power to make a difference.….as a “new” phar­ma­cue­ti­cal, this could also be an oppor­tu­nity to pro­mote a far bet­ter and far more effec­tive pro­duct to folks who really could use it. Surely it is not only “com­mon folk” who deal with hypothyroidism.…what well-known per­son has this con­di­tion and takes des­si­ca­ted thy­roid? (besi­des Janie B. or Mary Sho­mon that is :-) ) You know, like a Michael J. Fox or a Marlo Tho­mas or a Mary Tyler Moore?

    Janie, you’ve set up so many use­ful chan­nels of communication.…what can we do to fun­nel the request for sublin­gual des­si­ca­ted thy­roid to a place like RLC.…surely there would be “something in it” for them.

    My two cents. E

    (from Janie: I’m in con­tact with three pharms about it as we speak. :) )

  3. Gunjar said:

    Jul 17, 09 at 9:37 pm

    Some­time ago someone in a res­ponse men­tio­ned they were using Natu­ral Thy­roid made in Thai­land.
    I follo­wed this up and got a con­sign­ment sent to me here in Oz, so far it seems really good. Dis­sol­ves nicely Buc­cally, cuts well and my body likes it as much or maybe more than it liked the old Forrest.
    Much chea­per, I sour­ced it from edrug2.com cost US$99 inc­lu­ding ship­ping for 500 x 60mg (1gn) on my doors­tep in 5 days, much chea­per if you buy more but here in Oz we are only allo­wed to import 3 months worth at a time.

    Worth trying
    Gunjar

  4. Lena said:

    Jul 18, 09 at 4:46 am

    Look for a good old-fashioned com­poun­ding phar­macy. They can make up medi­ca­tion, inc­lu­ding desic­ca­ted thy­roid extract, in any form you need: gel­cap, tablet, or yes, pro­per sublin­gual “troches” (aka lozen­ges). I get mine from one here in Aus­tra­lia, at about $60 (Aus­tra­lian dollars) for 180mg (3 grain) for 100 cap­su­les. To take them sublin­gually, I just empty out half the thy­roid pow­der onto a spoon and stick it under my ton­gue, twice a day. It tas­tes like char-grilled ham to me, though others don’t like the taste of the plain pow­der. :) Aus­tra­lian com­poun­ding phar­ma­cies all use Thy­roid USP, the same stuff used to make Armour and Natu­reth­roid — only you can get it in any format.

    (from Janie: In Ame­rica, com­poun­ded thy­roid is fre­quently com­poun­ded synthe­tic T4 and synthe­tic T3, sadly. So if anyone goes this route, make very sure they are com­poun­ding “desic­ca­ted thyroid”.)

  5. carol said:

    Jul 19, 09 at 7:50 am

    Hi:
    I went to the site and found something called Armour Thy­roid Thyroid-s Gene­ric. Is this what you bought, Gunjar?

  6. nutralady2001 said:

    Jul 20, 09 at 10:20 am

    Yes Carol, I think that is what Gun­jar is refe­rring to

    I star­ted on Thy­roid –S when I switched from T4 by far the chea­pest alter­na­tive for me here in Aus­tra­lia com­pa­red to a com­poun­ding phar­ma­cist (I take 6 grains a day)

    I then switched to Armour and was pro­bably the first per­son to com­plain to Janie (pri­va­tely) about the return of hypo symp­toms with the refor­mu­la­tion, thin­king maybe I was losing my mind but within 2 weeks the other com­plaints star­ted coming in.

    Am now wai­ting on an order of Thyroid-S again can’t wait for it to get here have orde­red it from a new source as the one I used pre­viously chan­ged it’s orde­ring sys­tem which made it very dif­fi­cult to place an order with them

  7. Gunjar said:

    Jul 21, 09 at 8:44 pm

    Hi Carol,

    The ver­sion I got wasn’t Thyroid-S, though I think that’s pro­bably also fine.

    It was Thi­royd made by Grea­ter Pharm, both the same price for 500 though the Thy­roid S gets a bit chea­per for 1000, but as far as I can see it’s a bit of a risk to order so many, as legally in Aus one is only allo­wed to order enough for 3 months at a time, and one should get a script from ones Dr & scan it and send it as an email attach­ment so the web­site can print it out and put a copy in the pac­kage for cus­toms. I explai­ned the situa­tion and per­sua­ded my very coo­pe­ra­tive Dr to write a script that wor­ked out to be for 6 per day which is more than I actually use but that cove­red 500 for the 3 month rule. I don’t think he would have been OK to write one for 11 gn per day, too risky for him.
    Cus­toms hadn’t ope­ned my pac­kage but if they had and there had been no script they would have just con­fis­ca­ted it
    But of course if you are somewhere where they don’t have such silly rules then web­si­tes offer a much bet­ter price for 2000

    Regards
    Gunjar

  8. Whitney said:

    Jul 22, 09 at 3:52 pm

    How do you know what your country’s ship­ping res­tric­tions are? I live in the US.

  9. Gunjar said:

    Jul 25, 09 at 2:30 am

    Whit­ney,
    Here in Aus­tra­lia, you ring up the The­ra­peu­tic Goods Admi­nis­tra­tion ( equi­va­lent to the FDA) or go to their web­site, and the Cus­toms Dept and bet­ween them they will tell you what is allo­wed for a par­ti­cu­lar drug, I would assume it would be somewhat the same in the US.
    Regards
    Gunjar

  10. Stacey said:

    Jul 28, 09 at 12:38 pm

    Just was switched to Nature Thy­roid, when no results were seen from Armour Thy­roid. After seve­ral patient com­plaints my doc­tors office called and found out that Armour recently switched their formula.

  11. Tina said:

    Jul 31, 09 at 10:53 am

    I just sent my doc­tor a link to this email and told him I wan­ted to
    talk about switching at my next visit. I was plea­santly sur­pri­sed that he replied after a cou­ple of days via email and he is going to call it in today. I had my thy­roid out almost 4 years ago and I have been on armour thy­roid for almost 2 years.

  12. mary said:

    Aug 01, 09 at 7:30 am

    I have once again attemp­ted to refill my Armour Thy­roid presc­rip­tion and am exas­pe­ra­ted. A co-worker has been aler­ting me to what’s been going on any­way, and I’ve spent the last year being told the drugstore’s stock of Armour was “bac­kor­de­red.” I am actually wor­king with a small indie drugs­tore right now figu­ring they have more sym­pathy than chain drugs­to­res, but I guess it doesn’t mat­ter. The funny thing is I noti­ced recently that my pills were inef­fi­ciently stam­ped with the A tra­de­mark, and I couldn’t even read the dose-identifying let­ter beneath the A. As it hap­pe­ned my friend had recently told me that the pills were re-formulated, and I didn’t unders­tand what that meant until a recent one just didn’t taste the same. Since I have been taking Armour since I was a todd­ler, or a baby I used to chew it, because it was sweet. In recent months I have not noti­ced it but I did notice something was dif­fe­rent. And just this week, at the bot­tom of my pill vial, I saw crumbs of pill mat­ter, and even what loo­ked like fila­ments of it, spi­der webby loo­king small strands. So they must be coming apart in the bottle! And I tried to access the Forest Web­site this mor­ning but I can’t. And by the way: I used to be on 120 mg (2 grain). ALL my life, until I had chil­dren and grew a little bit older. Now I’m on 135 mg. So ins­tead of 1 pill, I had been taking 2 (120 mg and 15 mg). Sud­denly the 120 was not avai­la­ble, excuse me, it was BACKORDERED. Still is not avai­la­ble. Today, my hus­band pic­ked up my refill for me and was told the 15 mg was bac­kor­de­red. They had about 10 of them so I have 10 days worth. After that who knows what I’ll get to replace it. Pro­bably something I will need to cut in 1/2 or 1/3s

  13. Stephanie said:

    Aug 05, 09 at 11:38 am

    I finally found a dr who was willing to put me back on Armour after many years of terri­ble hypothy­roid symp­toms. Two months after finally get­ting it up to what see­med to be the pro­per dose and star­ting to feel human again, even good some days, I sud­denly star­ted get­ting stea­dily worse again. I rea­li­zed from the info on this web­site, and the change in the taste of the Armour, that the new for­mula see­med to be not wor­king for me.
    After 3 months of dea­ling with my dr about my symp­toms get­ting worse again, I finally con­vin­ced her to switch me to Westh­roid if I found where to get it. I called the com­pany, RLC Labs, and they told me it was avai­la­ble for drop-ship spe­cial order which would take 2 – 3 days. When I finally found a phar­macy willing to do that– most would not– the repre­sen­ta­tive from RLC Labs con­tac­ted the dis­tri­bu­tor and the phar­macy and set up the order, but then at that time we were told 5 days… then when it arri­ved it was the wrong strength… reor­de­red but the wrong strength was sent again… then the latest order did not come on Mon­day as it should have, and still didn’t arrive in today’s (Wed­nes­day) ship­ment. So I called RLC and spoke with the same woman who had ori­gi­nally hel­ped set up the order, and now she tells me they are run­ning way behind because they’ve had so many orders lately, and it will be 7 – 10 days. I asked how to find out if the pro­per strength was orde­red this time and she said she would need the phar­ma­cist to call her with the actual orde­ring codes. He says he doesn’t have time.
    So I’ve been wai­ting three weeks so far for something that I was told by RLC would take 3 days, and don’t know when or if it will arrive, and I can’t even find out if the pro­per strength was orde­red this time. And in 9 days I’ll be out of my last refill of the Armour, and if the Dr has to refill it (which she agreed to switch brands ONLY because of the severe shor­ta­ges of Armour here), she will try to insist again that I need to be on the Levo, which has never wor­ked for me.
    And all of this would’ve been avoi­ded if Armour hadn’t chan­ged their for­mula that wor­ked well for so many people!!!

  14. Veronica said:

    Aug 06, 09 at 12:57 pm

    I have had the same expe­rience with RLC as Mary! I finally got swicthed over the Armour.…right in time for the refor­mu­la­tion, which made me go seve­rely hypo-hair loss, body aches…the works. So I tal­ked with my ama­zing doc­tor who switched me over to Nature-throid.…only to find that no one carries it in Chi­cago! Most of the phar­ma­cists hadn’t even heard of it, actually-and the ones that did, were bac­kor­de­red. So I called RLC and their CS rep, after a con­fu­sing 15 minu­tes, sta­ted that they dont send Nature-Throid to dis­tri­bu­ters, but can drop-ship it though it would take 5 busi­ness days. I had my very patient phar­ma­cist call them and they sta­ted that they are bac­kor­de­red, but if I, the patient, paid $30, they would over­night my presc­rip­tions. I called RLC to read them the riot act, and tal­ked with a very nice rep who basi­cally apo­lo­gi­zed for the delay. I have ended up paying the extra money so that I can get off Armour as quickly as possible…but I have to say, I am not con­vin­ced of this lab. This is a terrif­ying expe­rience for anyone to go through, as you all know, and to have these road­blocks, and to be aware that we are being taken advan­tage of, is just shameful!

  15. Paula said:

    Aug 10, 09 at 9:45 am

    I was on synth­roid and cyto­mel. Felt OK but, my toe­nails for some rea­son kept falling off. They would just fall off and new ones would grow in, just to fall off again. The nail was healthy but just detached.
    I tal­ked my doc­tor into Armour. No pro­blems, felt great and no toe­nail pro­blems. I take 1 1/2grain.
    The past 3 – 4 months I know I am hypo again. My blood work
    is sup­po­sedly NORMAL accor­ding to my phy­si­cian?? The last 6 months I can­not even get to speak with my doc­tor. I chan­ged to a new doc last week but, I am wai­ting for all the new blood work and saliva test results.
    I wake up tired, am tired all day, aches and pains, memory fog…I can­not even work. Gai­ning weight again, too.
    When, I am in work, I am still not there. I feel like I want to just sleep all day. Nor­mally, I sleep 7 hours per nite, I am up to 10.5 and I am still exhaus­ted.
    After, rea­ding this site, it all makes sense. It took me 5 hours on Fri­day, to find a place to refill my presc­rip­tion of Amour (2 dif­fe­rent strengths and I have to split one. What a waste of time…should have found this site before I bought them).
    Every­place that I went to, had none. Finally found them at Costco. Well, the pills are falling apart and they disin­te­grate when I cut them. I am going to bring back the presc­rip­tion to the RX.
    I just orde­red the Nature-Throid online through the UK. Hope I get them. I can­not even func­tion. I feel just awful!
    At this point, I do not know what to think…all I know is, I am angry and dis­sap­poin­ted at Armour.
    I am sure, this is “P*****g off a lot of doc­tors. Plus, it is easier for them to just presc­ribe Synth­roid. So, if the doc­tor does change the script, and the labs of RLC can­not get their act together, we will all be slee­ping our life away:-(

  16. Stephanie said:

    Aug 10, 09 at 12:01 pm

    Update on my pre­vious post on 8/5–
    I spoke to someone at RLC on approx July 8 about how to obtain Westh­roid or Natu­reth­roid in the 1/2 grain strength, since no one here carries it and can­not spe­cial order that strength. RLC explai­ned what to ask the local phar­ma­cist to do to obtain it, and said it would be drop-shipped over­night. They were very nice and very help­ful, or so I thought.
    Last Wed when the latest order (see above) didn’t arrive, the phar­ma­cist called RLC to find out if they have the order and if they ship­ped the correct strength this time, and shipping/arrival dates, and he was told it would arrive Fri­day. It did not. Today (Mon­day) after he went through a big hassle with RLC to try to find out where the order is, RLC finally deci­ded that UPS lost it (but the phar­ma­cist and I are both won­de­ring why UPS can­not track it as they do everything else, or if the pro­blem is with the order itself). RLC said they’d ship another and refund the other cost that the phar­macy had paid for the lost order. The phar­ma­cist told them he isn’t worried about his ship­ping costs, he is worried about his cus­to­mer get­ting her thy­roid Rx that we’ve been wai­ting on for almost a month and that she needs asap because she will soon be out of the Armour that she had to call over town to find it and get another month’s supply while wai­ting on the order from RLC that should’ve only taken a few days. He said RLC does have records of every call he and I made inc­lu­ding the first one almost a month ago, but the only thing they’d offer is to send a repla­ce­ment ship­ment today and it would arrive hope­fully Thurs­day, or by Fri­day latest. The phar­ma­cist reques­ted over­night shipping/delivery but was told no. So he got the order # and is reques­ting that RLC pro­vide him with the UPS trac­king # so he and I can verify that it has been ship­ped and track it our­sel­ves this time.
    That phar­ma­cist has been very help­ful. At first RLC was very nice and very help­ful, but as the month has pas­sed the demand has greatly inc­rea­sed for their pro­ducts as peo­ple are fin­ding out that there’s a pro­blem with Armour and that RLC is an alter­na­tive, and their ser­vice is get­ting worse and worse, I guess because that small com­pany sud­denly has more busi­ness than it is pre­pa­red for. Hope­fully this time my order will arrive on time, and in the right strength, after trying for over a month to get it.

  17. Michael said:

    Aug 12, 09 at 10:59 am

    This has been some very inte­res­ting rea­ding for me.I have been on the synthe­tic meds for years and have been get­ting worse.Can’t get enough sleep,panic attacks,no ambi­tion and many more symptions.I am going to talk to my Dr next week and see what I can do to get switched over to “desic­ca­ted thyroid“I’m really tired of the brain fog and lack of consentration

  18. Caty said:

    Aug 14, 09 at 1:47 am

    I’ve switched from Armour to Nature-throid (becouase its chea­per) and I feel worse again! Heart pal­pi­taions, cold feet and tired­ness. And a twitching eye! Why is it not as good?

  19. Samantha said:

    Aug 14, 09 at 11:05 pm

    I have tried Nature-throid and find that it doesnt work for me as well as the new Armour for­mula did. I have also tried Nutri-meds, and although it seems a bit bet­ter than the Nature-throid (in terms of tem­pe­ra­ture and symp­tom sta­bi­lity), it still doesnt seem as good as the new Armour… unfor­tu­na­tely I too have lots of hypo symp­toms that retur­ned with the new Armour so it isnt good enough to stay on this, not to men­tion the bac­kor­der issue making it har­der to find… will keep trying the dif­fe­rent brands till I find one that is better…

  20. Allison said:

    Aug 15, 09 at 9:21 am

    I found a com­pany here that doesn’t require a script:

    http://www.antiaging-systems.com/iasstore/acatalog/thyroid.html

    My doc­tor wouldn’t write one for me because my freeT3 was within range but my TSH was high. I ans­we­red 26 out of 41 of Mary Shomon’s quiz ques­tions with ans­wers that lead me to believe that I have hypothy­roid. I have a lot of the symp­toms. I also read Janie’s book. I have MS, an autoim­mune disease, and hypothy­roid goes hand in hand with autoi­mune. I’m not sure which came first but I have had some of the symp­toms for a good por­tion of my life. I have not yet tried the Nature-throid bec­suse it has not yet arri­ved. I orde­red 15 mg. pills and if I see that they help, I will order a high dose next. Wish me success!

  21. Peggy O. said:

    Aug 21, 09 at 9:00 pm

    Rea­ding everyone’s stuff here is enlight­ning to know that I’m not alone but super frus­tra­ting to know that there are so many of us out there, suf­fe­ring for sooo long with no end in sight! I’m 48 years old and have suf­fe­red from what I’ll call a ‘sen­si­tive thyroid’since I was a tee­na­ger. It didn’t just outright quit until after my hys­te­rech­tomy when I was 40. So, for the past 8 years I’ve been trying to edu­cate myself and find the per­fect com­bi­na­tion of Dr., pills and phar­macy. What I’ve found out the hard way(trial and error) is that I have almost accep­ta­ble results if I use a Com­poun­ding Phar­macy, taking a combo T3/T4 cap­sule, I also use com­poun­ded Progesterone/testosterone cream, and an Estro­gen tablet, all to the tune of about $240. a month. Not cove­red on any insu­reance plan. I just got done( I hope) with the night­mare of trying to use manu­fac­tu­red Thy­roid and Estro­gen again for the 3rd time. My insu­rance covers it for $4. a month…but I’m dying here. I have all the fati­gue and fog symp­toms that Paula lis­ted above. It’s a slow steady spi­ral to the bot­tom of that black pit. I have a fabu­lous Nurse Prac­ti­tio­ner who has been wor­king with me for many years now. She unders­tands my delima with the cost and has presc­ri­bed every com­bi­na­tion on earth that my insu­rance will cover, trying to find something that my body will recog­nize and absorb to no avail. Regard­less of any shor­tage or restructure…that stuff doesn’t work for me any­way. Does anyone know why not?? Is it the fillers they use?? Mon­day, I start back on the com­poun­ded for­mula at $240. a month. I can’t afford that but I can’t live like this either. I typed all this to let other peo­ple know that I’m out here too and also, maybe someone else has expe­rien­ced this and has any sort of suggestion(s). I’ll never give up… I remem­ber the gal I used to be and I love her!!

  22. beano said:

    Aug 22, 09 at 10:00 am

    I’m afraid of the Thyroid-s made in Thai­land– just because i read the ingre­dient pro­file and it con­tains a lot of alu­mi­num addi­ti­ves– all i need now is Alzheimer’s

  23. beano said:

    Aug 22, 09 at 10:04 am

    HI CATY– you pos­ted on Aug 14th– are you any bet­ter now? I am inte­res­ted in switching from Armour to Nature-throid because I have had recent pro­blems on the Armour– but I am having the symp­toms you have on Nature-throid– have your symp­toms gone away now?? I hope to take nature throid but i dont want to expe­rience that!

  24. Bronwen said:

    Aug 22, 09 at 2:12 pm

    Alli­son, I’m won­de­ring if you recei­ved your order yet?

  25. angela said:

    Aug 23, 09 at 11:24 am

    I am in Min­nea­po­lis Mn and wan­ted to try Armour –now I am afraid to — My Doc will not presc­ribe Nature Throid and I can’t afford to go to a doc­tor who will presc­ribe it — I will have to pay hun­dreds of dollars to see the one I found. Is there any­way to get it online without a presc­rip­tion? I don’t know what else to do –I am miserable…single mom..working two jobs and going to school full time — was diag­no­sed last fall and it’s been a roller coaster…I feel terrible..weight gain..fatigue…and I eat healthy and wor­kout ..well I try to wor­kout I get so exhaus­ted now…but I do force myself to go…I have put on 15 pounds in ten months and have never been over­weight in my life…would really like to try Natu­reth­roid so if any­body could help I would appre­ciate it! Thank you PS…I see a post above me found a site without a script..I will go there..but if there is anyone who has been using one of these sites for their meds ..is it wor­king? Do you feel better?

  26. Michele said:

    Aug 25, 09 at 10:09 pm

    As I rea­ding these com­ments about the desic­ca­ted thy­roid shor­tage, I have tears of frus­tra­tion welling up in my eyes. I am having a horri­ble time, get­ting the pro­per presc­rip­tion filled because nobody has any. My Dr. who didn’t want me to switch to desic­ca­ted thy­roid in the first place refu­ses now to presc­ribe any­more to me until I have my lab work done and sche­dule an office visit. After fee­ling so great on desic­ca­ted thy­roid, this last batch has left me fee­ling so awful…exhausted, weight gain, brain fog, etc..I FOUND THAT AFTER STOPPING synthe­tic thy­roid I am not having migrai­nes and hairloss…I found a phar­macy who has been wai­ting on their order of Westhroid..I will check again tomorrow…

  27. Michael said:

    Aug 29, 09 at 4:03 pm

    My Dr. did let me have the Armour I haven’t been on it a week yet and can tell I’m slee­ping bet­ter already.Will see what the next few weeks bring.

  28. Lisa said:

    Sep 03, 09 at 7:25 am

    I have been on Armour Thy­roid for the past four years — Wor­ked great for me — I felt good. Last month when I tried to refill my Armour, the phar­macy told me they couldn’t get it and they didn’t know when it would be avai­la­ble. I called my doctor’s office and left a mes­sage for the doc­tor to call me — and while I was wai­ting for his return call, I star­ted doing some research on my own. I found good info on Nature-Throid and deci­ded to try it. I called RLC Labs and they told me that Nature-Throid would not be avai­la­ble for 90 days that she gave me the num­ber of two phar­ma­cies — one being Know­les Apothe­cary in Ken­sing­ton MD. I called my doc­tor back again — and the nurse told me that my doc­tor had called in a RX for Synth­roid. I told her I didn’t want that and that I wan­ted to talk to the doc­tor about Nature-Throid. She said she would give mes­sage to doc­tor. The next after­noon, the nurse (not the doc­tor) called me back to tell me that the doc­tor had writ­ten up a RX for Nature-Throid 65 MG and that I could pick it up at the front desk. I told her that 65 was too much and that I nee­ded 1/2 grain (32.5) — she pro­cee­ded to tell me that I was wrong and that all medi­ca­tions were for­mu­la­ted dif­fe­rently and that I nee­ded the 65 MG of Nature-Throid (that this was com­pa­ra­ble to Armour 30 mg). I called Know­les Apothe­cary and told her I had the RX from the doc­tor but that I felt it was not right and told her that I had been on Armour 30mg. She told me that I could split the tablets in half. I recei­ved the Nature-Throid from Know­les within four days from sen­ding them my presc­rip­tion. I have not yet star­ted on them but will start taking Nature-Throid this weekend.

  29. Teresa said:

    Sep 27, 09 at 11:40 am

    I have been figh­ting with tooth and nail to try to get my hypothy­roi­dism pro­perly trea­ted for four­teen years. I have even on seve­ral occa­sions had tests done for other com­ple­tely dif­fe­rent pro­blems because doc­tors keep telling me my tests are nor­mal; so they won’t give me higher doses of thy­roid repla­ce­ment. I rea­lize now I need to get on a des­cia­ted thy­roid. I have tried them before but I believe that I didn’t have enough (they were MDs so pro­bably going by the TSH test nor­mal ran­ges ins­tead of symp­toms). Now there is the ques­tion of being able to find the Nature or Westth­roid. I also wish there was a way for me to just buy it through a dif­fe­rent country. I have suf­fe­red sooooo much and actually since I was five years old of not being pro­perly diag­no­sed and trea­ted. My latest doc­tor redu­ced my T4/T3 and natu­rally I have been dec­li­ning with many symp­toms. She isn’t lis­te­ning and just keeps orde­ring nume­rous drug presc­rip­tions for dif­fe­rent symp­toms and con­di­tions (which I won’t pick up). I will be lea­ving my pre­sent HMO at the end of the year. Now I am using my natu­ro­pathic phy­si­cian whom has only one bottle of natu­reth­roid left so isn’t jum­ping for joy to start me on it.I have had to pay for seve­ral tests with my own money even though I can­not afford it. Anyhow any sug­ges­tions on obtai­ning some Natu­reth­roid would be appreciated.

    (From Janie: you can obtain Natu­reth­roid via a presc­rip­tion, and here’s how to find a good doc who might presc­ribe it: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/how-to-find-a-good-doc We are also having a shor­tage for a few months, and here are options: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/options-for-thyroid-treatment )

  30. Alamada said:

    Sep 01, 10 at 11:43 pm

    Wan­ted to chime in that I brought up the idea of taking Armour with my doc­tor when I was diag­no­sed as hypothy­roid, howe­ver I go to a low-cost cli­nic, and they are very “by-the-book.” I’m happy they exist, as they ini­tially did the lab work that diag­no­sed me as hypothy­roid, but most of the peo­ple you’ll see there are fresh out of med school, and, quite frankly, fairly un-knowledgeable and rigid in their approach…it pays to really do your research before you go there, or you could very well end up with a “treat­ment” that will do more harm than good! Ini­tially, I was put on Synth­roid, which just knoc­ked me out! I’m flab­ber­gas­ted that anyone can take it at all, because I spent my waking hours yaw­ning, and my slee­ping hours knoc­ked out cold…I’ve never been more tired in my life! I was switched to Levoxyl, my dose has gone up and down, but I’m currently at 112 mg, against my wishes, I might add! I felt pretty decent at 150, howe­ver, my doc­tor said I was slightly hyperthy­roid at that dose, and has been gra­dually lowe­ring it since…I try to eat alot of raw food (so I’m con­su­ming alot of goi­tro­gens, which I’m very sen­si­tive to) and I really would pre­fer to keep my thy­roid meds high to pre­vent my hair from falling out, which it does on occa­sion, espe­cially if I’ve been eating alot of goi­tro­ge­nic foods, spi­nach, broc­coli, etc…Lately I’ve been loo­king into doc­tors in my area who will presc­ribe natu­ral thy­roid sup­ple­ments, and made a few appoint­ments, only to back out, as they were so expen­sive, and I really just can’t afford it…Thankfully, I came across this site and some others, and read quite a few dis­cus­sions and reviews about Thyroid-S and Thi­royd from Thai­land, which can be bought without a presc­rip­tion, thank god…About a week and a half ago I orde­red Thi­royd (as it pre­su­mably has no alu­mi­num in it, unlike Thyroid-S) off of “edrug2.com.” The manu­fac­tu­rer is Grea­ter Pharma, and I bought 1000 60mg tabs for $120, plus $30 for express ship­ping and handling…in under two weeks I recei­ved a note in my mail­box to pick up the pac­kage at the post office, in spite of a note with the com­pany to just leave the pac­kage at my door…I just pic­ked it up today – it came in a white bottle with both English and Thai on it, and the pills were wrap­ped up inside…they’re small, round and white, and they have a sweet but unap­pea­ling taste…but I’m happy to say that I took my first natu­ral thy­roid pill today!! It may be my ima­gi­na­tion, but I swear within the day I felt a huge change in my mood and energy, which has been somewhat lethar­gic since my dose has been redu­ced…! I took 1 and a half grains today, and I figure since the Thi­royd is sup­po­sed to be a little wea­ker than it’s com­pe­ti­tors, that that may come out to about 125mg. of Levoxyl…I may even­tually raise that dosage, it’s something I’ll have to consider…plus, I think I’ll just keep my switch to myself, and con­ti­nue to get the low-cost lab-work done at my doctors…shady, I know, but I just really want to be on the natu­ral thy­roid medi­ca­tion, and I don’t have the funds to do it the offi­cial way…Just wan­ted anyone who’s leery of orde­ring without presc­rip­tion from abroad to know that so far I’m thri­lled with the results, and I thank ever­yone who con­tri­bu­ted the infor­ma­tion that brought me to that deci­sion!!! Thanks, Stopthethy­roid­mad­ness, you rock!!

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