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I have been recei­ving emails this after­noon from con­cer­ned patients about the latest blog post by health wri­ter Mary Sho­mon. Her post sta­tes that Major Phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals has recei­ved a notice from the FDA to stop making desic­ca­ted thy­roid.  And Sho­mon ques­tions:  is this the begin­ning of the end?

I think it’s impor­tant to men­tion something that I remem­ber rea­ding, but can’t right now put my fin­ger on, that the FDA can stop pro­duc­tion of desic­ca­ted thy­roid if a com­pany has star­ted making it AFTER the FDA came into exis­tence, and require it to file a New Drug Appli­ca­tion, since it is “new” to that com­pany.  Forest Labs and RLC do not fall in that clas­si­fi­ca­tion. They were around before the FDA came into existence.

I did find this article about Morphine, which implies that as long as a drug (like desic­ca­ted thy­roid) has not chan­ged since it’s incep­tion, it can avoid the New Drug sta­tus. It states:

Under a grand­father clause, a drug mar­ke­ted prior to the 1938 Fede­ral Food, Drug, and Cos­me­tic Act, and labe­led with the same con­di­tions of use as prior to the Act, was not con­si­de­red a new drug. These drugs did not require an appro­ved new drug appli­ca­tion, but many thought tacit FDA appro­val was implied. It’s the drug company’s bur­den to prove an asser­tion that its pro­duct is grand­fathe­red. But FDA belie­ves few drugs are entit­led to grand­father sta­tus because many dif­fer from pre­vious ver­sions in some res­pect (e.g., for­mu­la­tion, strength, dosage form, route, indi­ca­tions, inten­ded population).

The above sta­te­ment makes you pause about Armour, which WAS chan­ged by Forest Labs. But I’m not at all sure RLC’s desic­ca­ted thy­roid has chan­ged at all, which can be good news for all of us.

Check out page 332 of Good Manu­fac­tu­ring Pro­ces­ses for Phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals by Joseph D. Nally which also out­li­nes the above issue of grand­fathe­red drugs.

All in all, it’s down­right MADDENING and INEXCUSABLE how the FDA would tell these gene­ric phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals – Major and Time-Cap Labs, to stop pro­du­cing the medi­ca­tion when we already have a shortage.

Here is what the FDA sta­tes in their 2006 Com­pliance Manual, Sec­tion 7132c.02 tit­led Mar­ke­ted New Drugs Without Appro­ved NDA’s and under A: Rea­son for This Gui­dance, please note what I have ita­li­ci­zed in their statement:

Manu­fac­tu­rers of drugs that lack requi­red appro­val, inc­lu­ding those that are not mar­ke­ted in accor­dance with an OTC drug mono­graph, have not pro­vi­ded FDA with evi­dence demons­tra­ting that their pro­ducts are safe and effec­tive, and so we have an inte­rest in taking steps to either encou­rage the manu­fac­tu­rers of these pro­ducts to obtain the requi­red evi­dence and comply with the appro­val pro­vi­sions of the Fede­ral Food, Drug, and Cos­me­tic Act (the Act) or remove the pro­ducts from the mar­ket. We want to achieve these goals without adver­sely affec­ting public health, impo­sing undue bur­dens on con­su­mers, or unne­ces­sa­rily dis­rup­ting the market.

To the con­trary, the FDA has IN FACT adver­sely affec­ted public health and has impo­sed undue bur­dens on con­su­mers by these ridi­cu­lous actions!! A large body of those now on desic­ca­ted thy­roid will tell you that being on anything BUT desic­ca­ted thy­roid ruins their health and well-being. I am one.

Under III. FDA’s Enfor­ce­ment Policy, they define two areas of con­cern: drugs with poten­tial safety risks, and drugs that lack evi­dence of effec­ti­ve­ness. You and I know very well that the lat­ter has been sta­ted ad nau­seum by the FDA and cer­tain indi­vi­duals, and yet THE EVIDENCE IS IN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF US who have switched to desic­ca­ted thy­roid is igno­red, as it the con­ti­nuing symp­toms repre­sen­ting lack of effec­ti­ve­ness in T4 meds!

You can con­ti­nue rea­ding this FDA Gui­dance policy and use the Com­ments to see what hits you, as well.

I have com­pi­led the above fairly quickly, so if I have left anything out, or you can offer more cla­ri­fi­ca­tion, use the Comments.

P.S. A recom­men­da­tion: if you are very opti­mal on your current desicc­ca­ted thy­roid, I would recom­mend trying to dec­rease your dose every other day. For exam­ple. 4 grains, 3 1/2 grains, 4 grains, 3 1/2 grains, etc.  Not ever­yone can do this, but if you can, it will help draw out the amount of desic­ca­ted thy­roid you do have without adver­sely affec­ting you. Again, this may only work for those who are quite opti­mal, and without adre­nal fati­gue or other issues.

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15 Responses to “Major Pharm told to stop making thyroid – more to this story”

  1. Renita said:

    Aug 26, 09 at 6:38 pm

    It is time to con­tact the FDA enmasse and let them know we are out here — we want our desic­ca­ted thy­roid and they are adver­sely affec­ting our health!

    Follow the link below to find infor­ma­tion on how to con­tact the FDA — I’ve also inc­lu­ded the phy­si­cal address and email address. I’m done!

    http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/CDER/ContactCDER/CDEROmbudsman/default.htm

    Address:
    CDER Ombuds­man
    White Oak Buil­ding 51, Room 6158
    10903 New Hampshire Ave­nue
    Sil­ver Spring, MD 20993

    E-mail address: cderombudsman@fda.hhs.gov

  2. Marnie said:

    Aug 26, 09 at 6:49 pm

    Janie,

    (It looks like Renita has the same idea as I do. I was typing this up while she was pos­ting. :) )

    Is there anything that we can do about this? Can we start up a cam­paign that will get our­sel­ves heard? Although this exam­ple is not health rela­ted, I do remem­ber a big cam­paign that was deve­lo­ped to get Fiona Apple’s record label to release an album of hers that had been recor­ded years ear­lier. They sent thou­sands and thou­sands of plas­tic apples to the cor­po­rate office on the same day with letters.

    I have a good idea for a cam­paign that we can start, and I would defi­ni­tely offer to help you with it if this is something you would like to take on with me. I wouldn’t be able to do it alone, though.

    Let me know. This will be horri­ble if it hap­pens!!! We need to stop it! We need to make some noise!!! :(

  3. Laura said:

    Aug 26, 09 at 7:12 pm

    I wrote and emai­led my let­ter have you????

  4. Anna said:

    Aug 26, 09 at 7:22 pm

    Shall we send thou­sands of but­ter­flies to the FDA?

  5. Janey said:

    Aug 26, 09 at 7:37 pm

    Thank you Renita for the info. I just sent an e-mail sta­ting my case. I think we should all send e-mails and load up their “in-box”.

  6. Gwen said:

    Aug 26, 09 at 9:38 pm

    My hus­band and I are up late tal­king about this. We sent an email and will not
    stop sen­ding emails, making phone calls, etc…whatever we have to do.
    You must not give up.
    Email, snail mail and ask anyone you know affec­ted to do the same.
    This is our country and we will fight for our right to stay healthy.

    I have kept my hypothy­roid disease in check with NDT.
    For years I bla­med something else for chills every after­noon and night.
    That was just one symp­tom to go away using Armour.

    Thank you Janie.
    Fight the good fight!
    Peace to you all.
    Gwen

  7. Dito said:

    Aug 27, 09 at 12:46 am

    So, if I unders­tood this sta­te­ment correctly;

    If Forest would go back to their ori­gi­nal for­mula — which they really ought to any­way becuse the new ver­sion is lac­king effect — THEN that ver­sion of Armour Thy­roid would not be regar­ded as a new drug? And would the­re­fore not require a new drug application?

    That ought to be a very strong motive for Forest to switch back to the old version.

  8. Louise said:

    Aug 27, 09 at 4:58 am

    I am not unders­tan­ding all of this inter­fe­rence from the FDA for a drug that, on my sheet from my phar­ma­cist under side affects lists: none when used pro­perly. Every other med that I have taken has a list an arm’s length. I have finally found Armour and I am almost where I need to be and my days are sooo much bet­ter. I will join in the fight. There has got to be someone who will unders­tand that they are not just making some admi­nis­tra­tive deci­sion but that they are pla­ying with people’s and their fami­lies lives!

  9. Heidi said:

    Aug 27, 09 at 5:24 am

    Actually, accor­ding to my unders­tan­ding even without the refor­mu­la­tion the FDA can go after Armour etc, on the grounds that it still needs to be pro­ven that it is:
    1. Safe or 2. It’s effec­tive. They seem to be using the lat­ter to go after des­si­ca­ted thy­roid which is why it is SO impor­tant to INUNDATE them with your sto­ries of it’s effec­ti­ve­ness and where you would be without it.

  10. Linda Grimm said:

    Aug 27, 09 at 12:38 pm

    I am new to all of this. I was just put on Armour about 2 months ago and am panic­king big time abut what I’m rea­ding.
    My adre­nals are a mess, I just star­ted on Hydro­cor­ti­sone about 2 weeks ago. My doc­tor is very stingy with the Armour but I tal­ked her into let­ting me work up to 3 grains. I hope and pray this is not true about the thy­roid meds. I hav been trying to get diag­no­sed for over 4 years and tra­di­tio­nal doc­tors always say they can’t find anything. Thanks for listening.

    (From Janie: do unders­tand that all the panic you are rea­ding about is purely spe­cu­la­tion, not fact. Yes, it’s har­der to get desic­ca­ted thy­roid, but you do have Cana­dian Thy­roid and Thyroid-S. Hang in there.)

  11. Melody said:

    Aug 31, 09 at 5:21 am

    I too am begin­ning to panic, I’ve been on Armour for a year and have felt bet­ter too. I think I could use a little lar­ger dose as I still have some symp­toms. My phar­ma­cist at Rite Aid said that he was told RLC labs would not be allo­wed to make des­si­ca­ted hor­mone either.
    He said the medi­ca­tion Medco subs­ti­tu­ted was the same but synthe­tic Armour. It’s made by Time-Cap. He of course said there’s little dif­fe­rence with synthroid,and I wouldn’t notice much change. I’ve thought I was abnor­mal for years because I get little relief from the anti-depressants I’m presc­ri­bed and I thought finally a nor­mal life. I hope our pleas are heard.

  12. LauraK said:

    Aug 31, 09 at 12:27 pm

    I just found out about this today. I’ve been on Armour for 7 yrs, a combo of 90 mg and 15 mg to get 120 5 days and 105 2 days. This is what works per­fectly for me. I went to fill my 15 mg today and was told there wasn’t any and pro­bably wouldn’t be any. To call some other phar­ma­cies. I did and they had none either! I’m agahst! Not one word of this had been utte­red to me by my phar­ma­cist or my Endo (whom I just saw last month!) and I’m livid! WHY would Forest do this? I’m mis­sing something I’m sure as I haven’t read up on all of this yet but I’m at a loss here. I guess I have to call my doc­tor and hope he’ll have an ans­wer, but I won’t be hol­ding my breath.

    (from Janie: read my latest posts. It explains a lot.)

  13. Cathy said:

    Aug 31, 09 at 7:20 pm

    I have encoun­te­red the same pro­blem today. Currently, I live in the Atlanta area and CVS, Kro­ger, and all other phar­ma­cies claim they do not have any Armour Thy­roid medi­ca­tion. This is absoul­tely insane to me!! After, fin­ding your web­site about a year ago, I switched from Synth­roid to Armour. It was like night and day! There’s no com­pa­ri­son bet­ween desi­ca­ted thy­roid and synthe­tic thy­roid. Nothing ever got bet­ter for me when I was on Synth­roid. Now I feel like I’m back to square one, hope­less!! How am I sup­po­sed to get my presc­rip­tion for Armour filled?? Please, help, I don’t know what else to do??

    (from Janie: because there is a shor­tage of all desic­ca­ted thy­roid, use this page for alter­na­ti­ves until this pas­ses: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/options-for-thyroid-treatment)

  14. liz said:

    Sep 08, 09 at 4:26 pm

    (From Janie: Your doc­tor is unin­for­med. Read my blog posts. It will help you. It’s simply bac­kor­de­red for a cou­ple of months. Also read this: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/options-for-thyroid-treatment)

    I recently got diag­no­sed with hypothy­roid and had my doc­tor (after much con­vin­cing) finally presc­ribe Nature Throid after rea­ding all of the info on this site. I went to my phar­ma­cist today and he said there is no more Nature Throid, it’s back orde­red for months and most likely it will be pulled off the mar­ket! So as of today I am not taking anything and my doc­tor wants to put me on Synth­roid — which I have flat out refu­sed!! What are my options — I need to give my doc­tor an alter­na­tive to Synthroid?

  15. Kathleen Rabalais said:

    Feb 04, 10 at 9:29 am

    I have been on natu­ral thy­roid for seven yrs. and my hus­band has also. The dif­fe­ren­ces that we have had have been phe­no­me­nal. Uni­ted Health Care has noti­fied me that Medi­care will not pay for natu­ral thy­roid any­more and I must take the synthe­tic. Now I have to fight Medi­care for medi­ca­tions that will make me feel bet­ter. I refuse to take the synthe­tic because I won’t feel bet­ter. My phar­ma­cist told me that she could get Armour Thy­roid, but I have to pay for it whe­reas Medi­care was paying for the gene­ric. The FDA has far too much con­trol but Medi­care has more!


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