fdaimageAs thy­roid patients are not only in angst about a com­plete shor­tage of desic­ca­ted thy­roid in the US, we all have ques­tions and con­cerns about out future with no defi­ni­tive answer.

For exam­ple, we won­der if the FDA may be  requi­ring cli­ni­cal stu­dies from phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals who make desic­ca­ted thy­roid to prove that it’s safe and effec­tive (in spite of the fact that patients have been using it safely and effec­ti­vely for 110 years.  Nope, we don’t count. Ama­zing, isn’t it?) And we won­der: if stu­dies are requi­red, will they be able to afford the stu­dies, which are quite expen­sive? Will desic­ca­ted thy­roid con­ti­nue to be avai­la­ble while the stu­dies go on? And more uncom­for­ta­ble questions.

The FDA recently replied to a ques­tion by thy­roid patient Cathe­rine when she asked about the shor­ta­ges and here’s their reply:

Dear Cathe­rine:

Thank you for wri­ting the Divi­sion of Drug Infor­ma­tion, in the FDA’s Cen­ter for Drug Eva­lua­tion and Research.

We unders­tand your con­cerns regar­ding the avai­la­bi­lity of natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid pro­ducts.  FDA has NOT taken class action against unap­pro­ved thy­roid pro­ducts resul­ting in a shor­tage.  If a com­pany dis­con­ti­nues manu­fac­tu­ring of an unap­pro­ved pro­duct, that is a busi­ness deci­sion made by the company.

Please refer to the ASHP Shor­ta­ges web­site for a lis­ting of desic­ca­ted thy­roid pro­ducts that remain avai­la­ble:
http://www.ashp.org/Import/PRACTICEANDPOLICY/PracticeResourceCenters/DrugShortages/GettingStarted/CurrentShortages/Bulletin.aspx?id=459

We have con­tac­ted the com­pa­nies and RLC (manu­fac­tu­rer of West-Throid and Nature-Throid) is in bac­kor­der for all strengths and pro­ducts for the next 90 days.

Major has the 60mg and 120mg avai­la­ble of their “gene­ric” desic­ca­ted thy­roid pro­duct.  They report inc­rea­sed demand as the rea­son for their bac­kor­der for the other strengths.

Forest reports they have the 120mg, 240mg, and 300mg strengths avai­la­ble for their Armour Thy­roid pro­ducts and they report inc­rea­sed demand as the rea­son for the bac­kor­der on their other strengths.

If you and your health­care pro­vi­der deter­mine that one of these thy­roid pro­ducts is appro­priate for you, you can pro­vide the NDC num­bers lis­ted on the ASHP web­site for these pro­ducts to your phar­ma­cist so they can order for you.

Best regards,
Drug Infor­ma­tion SH
Divi­sion of Drug Infor­ma­tion
Cen­ter for Drug Eva­lua­tion and Research
Food and Drug Administration

The inte­res­ting thing about the above is that it implies that Major Phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals is just on bac­kor­der, which goes com­ple­tely against what patients have repor­ted elsewhere.  What’s going on there? Are they using old know­ledge? And the lar­ger sizes of Armour? Is anyone fin­ding that at the phar­ma­cies right now? Very curious. Inte­res­ting the com­ment about RLC, the makers of Natu­reth­roid.  And the link to shor­ta­ges is inte­res­ting, though from the end of July.

Wha­te­ver the ans­wers are, if you need a treat­ment to get you through this dif­fi­cult time, here are options for thy­roid treat­ment. And it still may be a very good idea to inform your con­gress­per­sons of our situation…just in case. See my blog post below.

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10 Responses to “Another interesting reply to a patient by the FDA”

  1. Michelle said:

    Aug 31, 09 at 9:39 pm

    I spoke with Lisa today and she used the word unap­pro­ved nume­rous times. She said they COULD but haven’t taken action against desic­ca­ted thy­roid. I asked why they pos­sibly might take action against these won­der­ful and patient pro­ven pro­ducts and she said that since 1997, they have star­ted to require all unap­pro­ved drugs to get appro­val. Again, I asked — why right now, if this has been a pos­si­bi­lity for 11 years. Her reply was that they haven’t yet requi­red such appro­val but they could. The only posi­tive she said is that there is another pro­cess whe­reby the natu­ral thy­roid com­pa­nies could apply for appro­val with lite­ra­ture OR a cli­ni­cal trial. In that lite­ra­ture, they can pro­vide data that isn’t neces­sa­rily their own. She didn’t ela­bo­rate. I asked if any of this new atten­tion has to do with com­plaints of the new Armour not wor­king well. She said no. I asked why there is a nation­wide shor­tage at this moment and she said that there is likely a shor­tage on desic­ca­ted thy­roid because they are not drugs that are appro­ved by the FDA. I was trying not to get caught up in the hype but that last sen­tence bothe­red me big time.

  2. Michelle said:

    Aug 31, 09 at 9:52 pm

    I neglec­ted to state that Lisa was calling me back from a mes­sage I left her last week when all sour­ces said to call the FDA. It is not my impres­sion that addi­tio­nal calls would help or that they would glean addi­tio­nal information.

  3. Me said:

    Aug 31, 09 at 9:54 pm

    “.…she said that there is likely a shor­tage on desic­ca­ted thy­roid because they are not drugs that are appro­ved by the FDA.”

    Oh, my gosh, right. There’s a shor­tage because it’s not appro­ved. What the heck kind of non­sense is that. Talk about dou­ble talk and pure gues­sing on her part. That doesn’t seem like a res­ponse from someone with a brain.

  4. Judy J. said:

    Aug 31, 09 at 9:55 pm

    I went to Wal­greens at 1st and Pat­ter­son yes­ter­day and they said they could get desic­ca­ted thy­roid from their sup­pliers. The excep­tion is Armour and it appears Forest Labs are pla­ying games with supply and demand for phar­ma­cies. They don’t care too much since they have enough desic­ca­ted thy­roid from Major and other sour­ces. I got the fee­ling the other gene­ric sour­ces were Cana­dian.
    Do you think they are pla­ying silly little games? I do. I did write my sena­tors and Repre­sen­ta­ti­ves and asked them to look into the situa­tion. Maybe they will.

  5. Linda said:

    Sep 01, 09 at 10:36 am

    @Judy: I didn’t know that U.S. phar­ma­cies could order pro­duct from Canada. Since the FDA shut down gene­rics here, would they allow Erfa to be sold? If so, I won­der why more phar­ma­cies don’t just order Erfa. I’m going to ask my phar­macy about that.

    Re Armour in cer­tain sizes: my Walgreen’s spent 2 weeks trying to scrounge up either Nature-throid or Armour for me and finally came up with a month’s worth of the 120 mg size of Armour. I was sur­pri­sed they were able to do that, since ever­yone else in town was telling me they were totally out of everything.

  6. Rob Marks said:

    Sep 01, 09 at 9:37 pm

    Wow, am I confused!

    What I’ve read ini­tially was that the FDA has hal­ted domes­tic pro­duc­tion of all Armour thy­roid or desic­ca­ted thy­roid because it wants pro­du­cers to go through the pro­cess of run­ning tests and pro­du­cing data to show the effi­cacy and safety of these pro­ducts des­pite the fact that they have been in use for more than 40 years and were belie­ved grandfathered.

    Sepa­ra­tely, the FDA or the EPA has hal­ted pro­duc­tion of the sole source of raw mate­rial at Ame­ricn Labo­ra­to­ries, Inc. in Omaha, Nebraska.

    Now, I’m rea­ding mes­sa­ges on this bulle­tin board that quote the FDA as saying that they are not hal­ting pro­duc­tion and the sug­ges­tion by those pos­ting that Forest Labs is pla­ying games with the issue.

    What’s the facts?

    (From Janie: right now there’s so much spe­cu­la­tion that it’s mudd­ying things up. :( Sorry about your con­fu­sion. This is why I am calling for all of us to stick to facts, and be care­ful with spe­cu­la­tion. Your second paragraph…I have not heard. It’s a mess, isn’t it!)

  7. Colleen Coble said:

    Sep 02, 09 at 5:52 am

    I have no trou­ble get­ting Armour from Wal­greens but they can’t get me Natu­reth­roid for 90 days. I’m going to try the com­poun­ding phar­macy that makes my bioi­den­ti­cal hor­mo­nes today and see what they tell me. They’ll know more about what’s going on. Armour wasn’t wor­king as well so I asked my doc­tor to switch me to Natu­reth­roid and dis­co­ve­red their shor­tage. They told Wal­greens they’d had a huge ups­wing in orders and couldn’t keep up with demand. I think that’s likely because of web­si­tes like this where we talk about the pro­blems and what we’ve tried that works bet­ter. They told Wal­greens they have very high demands for qua­lity and it will take that long to get enough supply that matches their high standards.

  8. Kim said:

    Sep 02, 09 at 8:35 am

    When I called Wal­greens (in San Fran­cisco, 3 sto­res) last week, they had *just* recei­ved 2 grain tablets of Armour, but had no Natu­reth­roid. I got the last 135 1 grain tablets.

  9. Millie said:

    Sep 03, 09 at 8:12 pm

    I just went to pick up my mom’s armour thy­roid at Tar­get this eve­ning where I have had no trou­ble get­ting it in the past. I was told it is on bac­kor­der inde­fi­ni­tely, they were only able to give me 40 out of 60 pills orde­red for 30 days, and they couldn’t tell me when they would get it in.

  10. Liz said:

    Sep 04, 09 at 7:45 pm

    Why doesnt the FDA go after the ciga­rette com­pa­nies that are killing millions with their poi­son If they are so damn con­cer­ned about peo­ple. Leave our natu­ral thy­roid meds alone.
    What I find funny is that they can presc­ribe mari­juana in Cali, to anyone who can get a presc­rip­tion, but thy­roid patients cant get something thats been around 100+ years and makes them feel good too?
    Oh and I’m curious? How do you regu­late pot? How can you be sure of it’s con­sis­tency too? How by smo­king it?

    Enough of this B.S.

    Put a damn war­ning label on my pill bottle if you must and give me my damn meds already.


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