And now that I have your atten­tion, here’s the ans­wer straight from the mouth of Kenny Soe­joto, Chief Ope­ra­ting Offi­cer of the only North Ame­ri­can maker of desic­ca­ted por­cine natu­ral thy­roid pow­der (Ame­ri­can Labo­ra­to­ries): a firm NO!

“We have amply supply and so do the dis­tri­bu­tors for com­poun­ding phar­ma­cists”, unders­co­res Soe­joto when I chat­ted with him today.

He also added in res­ponse to the recent shor­ta­ges:  “We didn’t spare an expense to push it along”.  i.e  “Ame­ri­can Labo­ra­to­ries have caught up with all bac­kor­ders, with the excep­tion of one major com­pany which has tight spe­ci­fi­ca­tions, but they should be caught up by the first quar­ter in 2010″, explai­ned Soejoto.

So what about spe­ci­fic rumors we keep hearing??

  1. My com­poun­ding phar­macy said they weren’t able to get it. Kenny explai­ned that a small com­poun­ding phar­macy often can’t afford the mini­mum order that Ame­ri­can Labo­ra­to­ries requi­res, nor does the sma­ller phar­macy want that much, which is an 110 lb drum of pow­der.  So, says Soe­joto, they need to con­tact their dis­tri­bu­tor, who is the middle man bet­ween a com­poun­ding phar­macy and Ame­ri­can Labo­ra­to­ries. “The dis­tri­bu­tor for com­poun­ding phar­ma­cies, ” explai­ned Kenny, “will buy the lar­ger amounts, make sma­ller pac­kets, and then sell those to the com­poun­ding pharmacies”.
  2. Ame­ri­can Labo­ra­to­ries can’t be the only North Ame­ri­can makers of pow­de­red thy­roid because my com­poun­der told me a dif­fe­rent name. The dif­fe­rent name you heard is the middle man men­tio­ned above – a dis­tri­bu­tor for the thy­roid pow­der to the com­poun­ding phar­macy. But that dis­tri­bu­tor got their supply from Ame­ri­can Laboratories.
  3. My regu­lar phar­macy said there is a supply issue for the brand I wan­ted. Again, Kenny explains there is no supply issue – they have plenty. Any phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal com­pany that makes desic­ca­ted thy­roid has to have ongoing cre­dit worthi­ness and docu­men­ta­tion before AI can sell to them. Also, we are simply expe­rien­cing con­ti­nued demand being grea­ter than supply, and it can take time to catch up.  i.e. there may be more to the story than you hear under any com­ment about a supply issue problem.

In conc­lu­sion, Kenny Soe­joto said they simply got into trou­ble from the growth of inte­rest in desic­ca­ted thy­roid the past few years, and they are much bet­ter pre­pa­red. Even Europe is inqui­ring more about it, he said. And my res­ponse to him?? Get ready, because you are doing millions of poten­tial thy­roid patients a HUGE favor by making it,  and we’re going to con­ti­nue to spread the world about natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid.  :)

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12 Responses to “Are we running out of desiccated thyroid powder???”

  1. Dana Neubaur said:

    Dec 09, 09 at 9:54 pm

    I am aller­gic to synth­roid (not that I was ever a fan any­way) and I can­not find my Armour anywhere. I live in the Orlando area.

    Please, please, please advise!!

    (http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/options-for-thyroid-treatment )

  2. Amber Waddell said:

    Dec 09, 09 at 10:39 pm

    I can­not find dis­sec­ted thy­roid anywhere in the northeast Nebraska area either. All phar­ma­cies say they can­not get any any­more and that it no lon­ger exists~! HELP!

    ( http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/options-for-thyroid-treatment P.S. you need to be rea­ding these blogs. lol )

  3. Dwayne said:

    Dec 10, 09 at 6:56 am

    I have been very lucky to get my armour– it’s not always the full amount but every time I start to get low– they get another shi­pe­ment in thank god. And the armour I have got­ten the last two months has been much bet­ter again. I can tell the dif­fe­rence. I hope it con­ti­nues or I will be switching. This is not the time of year to be fee­ling like shit LOL

  4. Charlene Schum said:

    Dec 10, 09 at 9:29 am

    Have been on a com­poun­ded ver­sion for 8 days. So far I’m doing ok. At first I felt a little lighthea­ded and speedy but all seems ok at the moment. Hope to get back on regu­lar Armour as soon as it is back and hope­fully the way it used to be. I’m lucky to have a com­poun­ding phar­macy to help me out, the first place said they did not make it. So keep trying.

  5. Darlene said:

    Dec 10, 09 at 10:55 am

    I can’t find Armour or Natu­reth­roid at any local phar­ma­cies. I’m going to call my endo and have her call a script to a com­poun­ding phar­macy. This whole situa­tion SUCKS!!!!

  6. Siobhan said:

    Dec 10, 09 at 11:47 pm

    Dar­lene, Clark’s Phar­macy in Ari­zona has Nature-Throid and Wes-Throid Your doc­tor can call or fax in a presc­rip­tion, and then, you’ll have to pay the phar­macy upfront to ship it to you, but you can then send that to your insu­rance for reim­bur­se­ment. (480) 488‑2007 is their number.

  7. Edna said:

    Dec 11, 09 at 3:36 am

    Well, that’s what my site was all about!
    Sug­gest you look espe­cially at Bar­nes, Murray, Her­toghe, Gull.
    Don’t think I’ll ever be able to add anything else to trc.
    But check most weeks — 06 – 12-09 visi­tor no: 53416
    lots of love,
    Edna xx

  8. Joan Parker said:

    Dec 14, 09 at 12:34 pm

    I saw on one site I read that it would be good to con­tact the FDA and let them know how I feel. I did just that, and they did e-mail me back. They are just saying that the makers of this medi­cine are being asked to get them appro­ved, but that the FDA has not taken them off the mar­ket. They say the medi­cine is still avai­la­ble to con­su­mers, and the pro­blem is a shor­tage of pro­duct and manu­fac­tu­ring delays. All things that ever­yone has said and been told. What can we think when our phar­ma­cies are telling us that the medi­ci­nes are not avai­la­ble and won’t me in the future because the FDA is expec­ting the com­pa­nies to go through trials, which can take a very long time? The phar­ma­cist I tal­ked to said that I should get a synthe­tic thy­roid medi­cine, which was much bet­ter, and more sta­ble any­way. The com­pa­nies who supply the medi­cine don’t let us know anything really. All this does is make peo­ple sus­pi­cious. I have not been on Armour medi­cine for very long, but I do know that for the first time I have been able to lose weight and feel more ener­ge­tic. Before that, all that hap­pe­ned was each year I nee­ded a higher dose of Synth­roid. I would be hap­pier to know that if they are not going to have desic­ca­ted thy­roid avai­la­ble here in the USA, then we could go the Canada. They are just strin­ging us along, and kee­ping our hopes up.

    Joan

  9. Susan said:

    Dec 14, 09 at 4:56 pm

    While rea­ding the com­ments about the phar­ma­cist and his/her com­ment about “synthe­tic being bet­ter” is totally igno­rant. If it was bet­ter DA— wouldn’t we all be taking that. It is not bet­ter — for some indi­vi­duals– THERE IS NO Thy­roid CONTROL WITH SYNTHROID. And do you think for a minute that phar­ma­cist is in the back poc­ket of big pharma??
    I have my sus­pi­cions that the maker of synth­roid has some influence on FDA requi­ring cli­ni­cal trials. It is really going to be emba­ras­sing 10 years down the road when we find out Armours is bet­ter. Great –except we will not have it in that time and Abbott Labs will be laughing all the way to the bank.

  10. Susan said:

    Dec 14, 09 at 4:57 pm

    While rea­ding the com­ments about the phar­ma­cist and his/her com­ment about “synthe­tic being bet­ter” is totally igno­rant. If it was bet­ter DA— wouldn’t we all be taking that. It is not bet­ter — for some indi­vi­duals– THERE IS NO Thy­roid CONTROL WITH SYNTHROID. And do you think for a minute that phar­ma­cist is not in the back poc­ket of big pharma??
    I have my sus­pi­cions that the maker of synth­roid has some influence on FDA requi­ring cli­ni­cal trials. It is really going to be emba­ras­sing 10 years down the road when we find out Armours is bet­ter. Great –except we will not have it in that time and Abbott Labs will be laughing all the way to the bank.

  11. Sarah said:

    Dec 18, 09 at 9:04 am

    I am in Pitts­burgh and depen­dent on Armour as I have no thy­roid gland due to can­cer.
    My regu­lar phar­macy and others I have called all say the same thing — Armour is una­vai­la­ble, and they do not know when it will be back in stock.
    I am for­tu­nate to have a com­poun­ding phar­ma­cist nearby who will make some, and I asked him about the shor­tage. Here’s his take -

    In early 2009, Armour refor­mu­la­ted (with appa­rently less than great results!). In any case, this allo­wed the FDA to step in and say ‘Aha! This is a new drug. Now you are sub­ject to the appro­val pro­cess to show that it is safe and effec­tive.‘
    Armour did not have to go through FDA appro­val since they exis­ted prior to FDA rules and were grand­fathe­red in, but now with the new for­mula, they do.
    Any­way, this pro­cess can take months or even years, and typi­cally costs the pharm. co. upwards of 600 million dollars (!!!).
    This explains the delay — and also makes me won­der if the costs are too high, whether Armour will pull the med altogether.

    ‘Why’ they would refor­mu­late after 100 years of suc­cess is beyond me. That’s the real mys­tery. The rest is the FDA.

  12. Andy said:

    Dec 25, 09 at 12:12 pm

    First of all, I don’t care if the manu­fac­tu­rers of armour ever get their act together again…has anyone else besi­des me noti­ced their new for­mula tas­tes just like tal­com pow­der and has the medi­ci­nal effect of the same? Just 30 days on the new stuff & I went full blown hypo! Not to men­tion all the scram­bling around to get it only to dis­co­ver that it didn’t work at all and then all the hassle and time to try to find an alter­na­tive. I am now on levothy­ro­xin (t4)and liothy­ro­nine (t3). Not fond of the synthe­tic stuff but I am atleast fee­ling human again and it doesn’t cost an arm & a leg that the com­poun­ding phar­macy was char­ging. They can stuff it! Wha­te­ver their rea­sons were/are, why weren’t any of us noti­fied? Why was this allo­wed to hap­pen? You have plenty of Doc­tors wri­ting in their opi­nions, where are the law­yers without thyroids?


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