pills2-1When the shor­ta­ges hit the Uni­ted Sta­tes for natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid in 2009, we all had to figure out which way to turn, since the 110-year-old natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid has been a far, far bet­ter treat­ment for our hypothy­roid state than levothy­ro­xine T4-only such as Synth­roid, Levoxyl, Eltro­xin, Oro­xine, etc.

Addi­tio­nally, Armour thy­roid by Forest Labs was refor­mu­la­ted in early 2009, and patients world­wide repor­ted a return of symp­toms as well a stress on their adre­nals.  So patients star­ted an exo­dus away from Armour.

Luc­kily, the FDA loo­se­ned res­tric­tions and allo­wed us to order the Cana­dian brand by Erfa Canada Inc, called simply “Thy­roid”.   Erfa’s Thy­roid pro­ved to be an exce­llent desic­ca­ted thy­roid for most, espe­cially if they rai­sed high enough once again to rid them of symp­toms.  And since it con­tains suc­rose, patients have been able to do it sublin­gually – a method which is not neces­sary for bene­fits, but is pre­fe­rred by many.

I gathe­red a list of known Cana­dian online phar­ma­cies, which you can view on the Options for Thy­roid Treat­ment page.

And just recently, I sought opi­nions from patients about the phar­ma­cies they have used:

Uni­ver­sal Drugs­tore aka Cana­dian Phar­macy Online: This phar­macy recei­ved the grea­test kudos from US patients and with the best prices.

  • Awe­some — good pri­ces and fast, friendly ser­vice. Will call your drug store and get your Armour script transferred.
  • Faxed my presc­rip­tion and it was mai­led the next day. I believe it took a week and a few days to arrive to Florida.
  • Great cus­to­mer ser­vice, easy orde­ring, and was chea­per than paying the co-pay with my insu­rance. It takes about 10 to 14 busi­ness days to get your presc­rip­tion, accor­ding to the com­pany, but mine came soo­ner than that and it was the holi­day mail rush season!
  • Rapid ser­vice, exce­llent cus­to­mer ser­vice, email remin­ders to refill, coupons
  • They had the best price and were very pro­fes­sio­nal and effi­cient.  My order arri­ved within ten days.
  • I paid $43.25 for 200 60 mg pills
  • Online forms were easy. I faxed my presc­rip­tions and recei­ved my Thy­roid in twelve days for $7 shipping

Phar­ma­cies Online:

  • Easy to regis­ter and the cus­to­mer ser­vice was exce­llent. I faxed my presc­rip­tion. A phar­ma­cist called me to see if I had any ques­tions. I paid $45.63 inc­lu­ding ship­ping for 100 60mg pills

Cross Bor­der Phar­macy:

  • Exce­llent cus­to­mer ser­vice, great pri­ces, two week arri­val from date of order, wish phar­ma­cies here were this good.

Canada Drugs Online:

  • Good expe­rience, prompt (7 – 10) days ser­vice get­ting my Erfa thyroid

See more recom­men­da­tions in the Com­ments sec­tion for this post. And I’m going to hope that no phar­macy “uses” this to adver­tise their phar­macy. This is FOR PATIENT COMMENTS ONLY.

What has been your expe­rience with online Cana­dian Phar­ma­cies? Do I need to remove any from the Options for Thy­roid Treat­ment for any rea­son? Do I need to add any?

ARE YOU A CANADIAN PATIENT ON DESICCATED THYROID? Use the Con­tact Me form if you’d like to be inter­vie­wed by a well-known Cana­dian repor­ter about desic­ca­ted thy­roid in Canada. I’ll need your name and email address. You need to con­tact me before Mon­day, January 25.

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Recent blog posts worth reading:

Read a guy’s email to me about his expe­rience with doc­tors being afraid of HC, which patients know is safe and WORKS!

Will the FDA be more trans­pa­rent for thy­roid patients on desic­ca­ted thy­roid with their new initiative?

Lis­ten to the second inter­view, Epi­sode 9, I had with Dr. John C. Lowe. What a bri­lliant man!


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.

25 Responses to “Are online Canadian Pharmacies cutting it with US thyroid patients on desiccated thyroid?”

  1. Amy M said:

    Jan 20, 10 at 12:05 pm

    Uni­ver­sal Drugs­tore was defi­ni­tely the best for me. Here are their pri­ces for 1 gr (60mg) tablets:
    100 TABLET(S) $19.00 USD
    200 TABLET(S) $36.25 USD
    300 TABLET(S) $51.50 USD
    400 TABLET(S) $64.75 USD
    Ship­ping and hand­ling: $7.00

  2. Kara S said:

    Jan 20, 10 at 1:17 pm

    Wow, Uni­ver­sal looks really good.

    I’ve used Cana­dian Meds South http://canadianmedssouth.com/things-you-need-to-know/armour-thyroid-shortage/  — I thought the pri­ces were good there! (I bought a bottle of 500 60’s for $133.95; Universal’s equi­va­lent would be %97.50 — if I could get 500 at a time from them.)

    One dif­fe­rence: Universal’s maxi­mum fill is 3 months’ supply, where CMS’s maxi­mum is 500 pills. That means you can get Erfa fac­tory sea­led bott­les of 500, which is nice if you have an extra that you wish to keep for awhile, just in case. (I’m assu­ming Erfa’s bott­les only come in 500s, and that Uni­ver­sal splits these into regu­lar presc­rip­tion bott­les — but I haven’t orde­red from Uni­ver­sal, so I can’t say for sure.)

    Any­way, Sue at CMS was super help­ful, and she is a thy­roid patient her­self who posts on various forums. In case you need an alter­na­tive to Uni­ver­sal for any rea­son, I can defi­ni­tely recom­mend CMS.

    Good luck ever­yone!
    Kara

  3. Kathleen Steinley said:

    Jan 20, 10 at 2:56 pm

    Canadadrugs.com has a natu­ral thy­roid pill that they say is known as Armour Thy­roid in the US. It is sweet and I take it sublin­gually. I think that it might be Armour Thy­roid in the ori­gi­nal for­mu­la­tion. They are great. I don’t know how their pri­ces com­pare but they are a frac­tion of what I paid for Nature Thy­roid in the US and the medi­cine is much stron­ger, perhaps because I take it sublin­gually or perhaps because it actually is the old for­mu­la­tion without cellu­lose. I’m afraid they will run out after I post this but since the know­ledge gai­ned from STTM has saved me I thought that I should share.

  4. Patricia Dunlop said:

    Jan 20, 10 at 3:08 pm

    Your link to the “Con­tact Me” form for Cana­dian patients does not work. I am a Cana­dian living in Canada who uses des­si­ca­ted thy­roid medi­ca­tion. Pre­viously I bought Armour Thy­roid in the U.S. (Michi­gan).
    Patri­cia Dunlop

    (From Janie: Try again. It works! Or you can find the Con­tact link at the bot­tom of any page on STTM)

  5. Jan said:

    Jan 20, 10 at 3:12 pm

    Uni­ver­sal was great! They advi­sed me on what the doc­tor nee­ded to put on my presc­rip­tion to switch me over from Natu­reTh­roid. I recei­ved my order in a rea­so­na­ble time. I felt the price was great, con­si­de­ring what com­poun­ded would have cost me. I paid about $50 for 300 tablets of 1/2 grain.
    AND they have it in stock! Can’t com­plain there.

    yes uni­ver­sal puts them in presc­rip­tion bottles.

    Far bet­ter ser­vice that Medco or Rite Aid ever gave me with get­ting dessicated!

  6. Alice said:

    Jan 20, 10 at 3:27 pm

    I orde­red ERFA thy­roid from Uni­ver­sal Phar­macy in Hali­fax. I paid about $38 for 200 tablets incl. ship­ping. I recei­ved it in about 2 weeks and their cus­to­mer ser­vice was great. I even recei­ved a post­card and phone remin­der when i should reor­der! I paid out of poc­ket not through my insu­rance and it was chea­per. I usually make a $15 copay for 30 tablets…a 1 month supply. I was very satisfied.

  7. Marie said:

    Jan 20, 10 at 7:42 pm

    Has anyone else recei­ved Natu­reth­roid pills that are nothing but pla­cebo pills? Are we in some kind of non­con­sen­sual natio­na­li­zed health­care experiment?

  8. Judy said:

    Jan 20, 10 at 8:23 pm

    I used Cross Bor­ders Phar­macy. Their cus­to­mer ser­vice is exce­llent. They called me to let me know when my order was ship­ped. It took about 1 and 1/2 weeks to arrive in Ohio. I got 500 pills for $110.00 (plus $10 ship­ping). When I called about orde­ring my refill early enough to allow time for it to come through US Cus­toms, they sent the refill imme­dia­tely, ins­tead of me having to wait until my pills were nearly gone like we do here in the US. I am very happy with them.

  9. Beth in T.O. said:

    Jan 21, 10 at 9:22 am

    I used NorthWestPharmacy.com They were very quick (about a week to Cali­for­nia). I just orde­red online then faxed my presc­rip­tion for Armour or any simi­lar natu­ral thr­yoid.
    I paid $46.98 plus 9.99 for ship­ping for 100 pills. Refill is easy as I now have an account on their web­site, I just have to push a but­ton to reor­der.
    I am very happy with them.

  10. Dwayne said:

    Jan 22, 10 at 6:33 am

    I must be one of the only peo­ple who is pretty disap­poin­ted right now. I orde­red directly from ERFA Thy­roid where I had my presc­rip­tion faxed (which after the refills will be going through another Cana­dian phar­macy). The ship­ping price is ridi­cu­lous– it’s almost the same cost as the thy­roid itself. I orde­red on Jan 7th and they just ship­ped it out– so now it’s two weeks I have just wai­ted for it to ship– not happy. And it’s way too expen­sive– With ship­ping it cost me $70.00 for a bottle of 100 tablets.

  11. Barbara said:

    Jan 22, 10 at 7:20 am

    I orde­red from Jan Phar­macy (new) in Mani­toba. I got 200 tablets of 30 mg for $28.04. Ship­ping was $9.95 and they arri­ved in less than 5 days. (That may have been excep­tio­nal.) Ser­vice was great. Very responsive.

  12. Paul said:

    Jan 22, 10 at 11:08 pm

    I have used Uni­ver­sal seve­ral times now and they are super-friendly with exce­llent pri­cing. I have used another Cana­dian phar­macy but Uni­ver­sal Drugs­tore is my go-to place.

  13. mette said:

    Jan 22, 10 at 11:54 pm

    I orde­red from universaldrugstore.com to Nor­way.
    After a few emails back and forth dis­cus­sing dosage and strength etc, they con­fir­med my order on a Wed­nes­day, and the next Thurs­day I recei­ved and sig­ned for it at my door.
    The price was very rea­so­na­ble, as Amy M lists above, and ship­ping was $40.

    Nor­mally it isn’t really legal to buy presc­rip­tion drugs from coun­tries outside Europe. But cus­toms only checks a few pac­ka­ges, and if they stop it, it’s pos­si­ble to apply for a one time per­mis­sion (from Legemiddelverket)in spe­cial circumstances.

  14. Amy Haught said:

    Jan 23, 10 at 7:00 am

    I purcha­sed from canadamedicineshop.com. It cost me $59.99 ($9.99 for ship­ping) for 100 60mg tablets. I orde­red the Erfa on 1/13/2010. They just got around to ship­ping it on 1/22/2010. I spoke with a repre­sen­ta­tive on 1/22/2010 (yes, I’m anxious to start my Erfa) who explai­ned it should arrive within 3 – 8 days. I was taking the refor­mu­la­ted Armour but had to stop due to racing heart, and severe dizzy­ness – I never expe­rien­ced these sym­toms with the old armour. I am currently sur­vi­ving on OTC Nutri-meds por­cine tablets until my Erfa script arri­ves. I’ve found in order to relieve my dizzy­ness and severe fati­gue I’ve got to take more of the Nutri-meds por­cine tablets to get through the day. I’m coun­ting each day until my Erfa arri­ves. I hope Erfa will bring relief to all who have been suffering!

  15. Laura Caliguari said:

    Jan 25, 10 at 7:57 am

    I used old Armour until Oct. 2009 when my supply ran out. I then switched to Erfa Thy­roid. My endo was nice enough to send my Rx to 77CanadaPharmacy.com. I orde­red 200 60mg pills and paid $80 plus ship­ping. After rea­ding other posts about Uni­ver­sal Phar­macy it sounds like I totally over­paid! I will say that 77CanadaPharmacy had great cus­to­mer ser­vice and ship­ped on time. I will also say that I am thri­lled to have found Erfa Thy­roid. I use 120mg/day (chew with meal) and so far, so good. Thanks to ever­yone for all of the help­ful information!

  16. Deana said:

    Jan 25, 10 at 9:51 pm

    I used Uni­ver­sal for ERFA and am com­ple­tely plea­sed with them. I will use them as long as legally allo­wed. I take 4 grains sublin­gually. I am in New Mexico.

  17. dex said:

    Jan 31, 10 at 2:22 pm

    I star­ted taking erfa about two weeks ago, I have taken Armour for almost ten years. Do I need the same dose or should I inc­rease it some as I notice the T4 and T3 are sligtly less in erfa? I feel my hypo symp­tons retur­ning since taking erfa. I have never taken anything sublin­gually is this the same pill or do I order something dif­fe­rent? I took four grains of armour.

  18. Regina said:

    Feb 02, 10 at 4:44 pm

    To dex: you don’t NEED to take Erfa sublin­gual. It is just many of us did this with the old Armour and were doing good and neither the new Armour nor Major Labs nor Westh­roid nor Natu­reth­roid and wha­te­ver else I was on last sum­mer wor­ked well, and defi­ni­tely not sublin­gual for me.

    Erfa seems pure and sweet, no filler, so for the ones who do well on sublin­gual it is heaven.

    You should pro­bably try taking it as you did with Armour, and see how that works. If taking it like Armour does not work, maybe you do need more.

  19. Lisa said:

    Feb 03, 10 at 9:50 am

    I had been on the ori­gi­nal for­mu­la­tion of Armour and noti­ced a dec­line in my health after the refor­mu­la­tion. I went to Natu­reth­roid but since it’s not avai­la­ble any­more, am left with my doc­tor pushing me towards com­poun­ded. I’ve had com­poun­ded before, and it was help­ful, but nothing like the old Armour. I came here to see what my options were for a ‘gene­ric’ and with my script for Armour in hand, I called Uni­ver­sal. Since my script is for Armour 120mg, I can’t fill it for Erfa, through Uni­ver­sal, until my doc­tor sends a new script for Armour 125mg. I haven’t read of the dosage dif­fe­ren­ces bet­ween Armour and Erfa and when I called Uni­ver­sal last week, they told me if I had a script for Armour then I would have no pro­blems get­ting Erfa filled with it. Well, Armour doesn’t come in 125mg so she won’t write it for that dosage. She won’t write for des­si­ca­ted thy­roid or Erfa, either; des­si­ca­ted is too vague and she’s not heard of Erfa. So, what do I do? Any suggestions?

    From Janie: either you really need a new doc to do what’s right for you, or con­vince her to write it in grains, as Uni­ver­sal should take that, no mat­ter the mgs. dif­fe­rence! Also try get­ting feed­back in patient groups: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/talk-to-others

  20. Lisa said:

    Feb 03, 10 at 11:59 am

    Thank you, Janie, I did post to natu­ral thy­roid group.

  21. Pat said:

    Feb 03, 10 at 3:54 pm

    I orde­red from Uni­ver­sal Drugs­tore, and have no com­plaints about the phar­macy, BUT the Cana­dian thy­roid pro­duct was NOTHING LIKE Armour — it was worse than taking nothing at all, or like taking Synth­roid ! YUK !!!!!!!!!

  22. Connie said:

    Feb 05, 10 at 10:26 pm

    I switched to ERFA at uni­ver­sal drugs store, I feel fabu­lous again after the armor refor­mu­la­tion left me felling bad, the price is good and their ser­vice is fabu­lous, thanks so much for let­ting us all know where to go !!!

  23. carolyn hunter said:

    Feb 08, 10 at 8:47 pm

    I got worse and worse on the refor­mu­la­ted Armour, but did NOT know WHY I was get­ting worse, …since I had NO know­ledge of the re-formulation.….but my body did.

    when my regu­lar mail order phar­macy sent me a let­ter telling me they could no lon­ger get Armour, I went on an inter­net search… and gra­dually stum­bled on the
    http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com web pages, where I got a huge edu­ca­tion on WHAT was going on, and HOW I could get a repla­ce­ment for natu­ral des­sic­ted thy­roid. And WHETHER I was taking the correct doses and fre­quen­cies,.… based on my pulse and tem­pe­ra­tu­res throughout the day.

    I dis­co­ve­red based on my weak­ness, exhaus­tion, and ina­bi­lity to DO anything, I was so defi­cient that I was actually near death at that point.

    As a result, I had to RAISE up my thy­roid AND cor­ti­sone to an unu­sually large amount. (My body tem­pe­ra­ture was sin­king and sta­ying so low, and flu­xua­ting wildly, up and down, I was free­zing, and way below “normal”. )

    After expe­ri­men­ta­tion, over seve­ral weeks, I ended up with a DAILY DOSE of aprox. 40 mg of hydro­cor­ti­sone (oral) DAILY, and 315 mg of natu­ral des­si­ca­ted thy­roid (Erfa) DAILY to cause the desi­red chan­ges, and FINALLY sta­bi­lize my temperature.

    I am, for the first time in my reco­llec­ted life, usually in the 98.0 or higher, after a mor­ning start of 97.1.

    I also had to divide the doses into four doses, whe­reas pre­viously I was taking a sma­ller daily amount,.…and only two times a day.

    Erfa has done well for me, and I keep track of my tem­pe­ra­tu­res seve­ral times a day,.…so I will know WHEN, IF, and/or WHETHER .…I need to lower any of my doses.

  24. Marla said:

    Feb 12, 10 at 8:49 pm

    I orde­red through Northwestpharmacy.com. They sent me 200, 60 mg, Erfa ‘thy­roid’ pills. I’m on 120 mg a day. It ran $56.49 plus $9.99 ship­ping, $66.48 total. They are sweet and I can take them sublin­gually. The order took about 2 weeks from start to finish. I have 3 refills, so hope­fully that pro­cess will be even easier.

  25. Andrew Poretz said:

    Feb 27, 10 at 3:02 pm

    Okay, great cus­to­mer ser­vice expe­rience I wan­ted to share. In Decem­ber I orde­red Erfa Thy­roid from Canadadrugs.com, which I lear­ned about from this page. Today they actually called me to ask if I was ready to get a refill! I said I still have nearly two months’ supply left so wasn’t ready to re-order, and this nice woman with a won­der­ful French-Canadian accent offe­red a 10% dis­count and will not process/charge the order for a month, and told me they now have free ship­ping, and also offe­red to call my doc­tor after that refill, since I only had one. So I’m pretty impres­sed. Defi­ni­tely beats the robo calls from Duane Reade for my other meds, and the monthly e-mail refill remin­ders from drugstore.com (which has been out of Armour for months, so what’s the point?)!


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