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I am blown away by the magnitude of what I have discovered just recently. And this potentially involves YOU.

I had several labs done just to keep track of how I stood in several areas. One was RBC Magnesium.  ”RBC” (red blood cell) measures the intracellular levels of magnesium–a more accurate picture than a “serum” measurement of your magnesium, which only measures 1% (and sadly, most doctors only measure your serum levels). i.e. even if your serum measurement was normal, your cellular levels may NOT be.

And my result?? My RBC magnesium measured at the bottom, very bottom, of the range. I was shocked. I eat healthy, and have been giving myself liquid minerals off and on for awhile. But clearly, I have been unable to raise my magnesium level. When I tried to raise my supplementation, I’d have to runnnn to the bathroom.

So I opened a book that a good friend gave me: Transdermal Magnesium Therapy by Mark Sircus, OMD. And folks, I am blown away. Here is what I have learned, and YOU may need to as well:

Magnesium Deficiency

  • Affects at least 7 out of 10 reading this
  • Can be there even if you feel well (me); will be there if you have mal-absorption (think gluten issues)
  • Is common with diabetes, liver disease, and if you take or eat a lot of calcium
  • Is especially problematic if you drink alcohol, sodas, caffeine and excess sugar, have a stressful life, sweat a lot, or take birth control pills
  • Increases your risk of heart disease, strokes, muscles problems, cancer and many other illnesses
  • Is common in a stressful life (and especially so if you have adrenal fatigue, or you are a Type A personality)
  • Can be even worse than a lab test reveals
  • Is found in someone like me who eats right!!

How a deficiency of magnesium affects you

  • Can cause heart disease (and exacerbates my Mitral Valve Prolapse), plus strokes
  • Promotes tooth decay, muscle cramping (me for over a decade)
  • Lowers your immune system strength, energy levels, metabolism (I have to eat like a mouse, even on desiccated thyroid)
  • Increases blood pressure (mine has risen at the same time I’ve noticed leg cramps…hmmmm)
  • Decreases your body’s ability to use Vit. C and E
  • Lowers the production, function and transport of insulin
  • Causes an increase of toxins and acid in your body (think cigarettes, radiation, toxins in food/water/air)
  • Makes you susceptible to host of diseases and conditions

Why you need higher levels of magnesium

  • Helps the metabolism of carbs, fats and amino acids and influences 325 enzymes
  • Counteracts and regulates the influence of calcium, which can harm you if too much
  • Is required for the body to produce and store energy (just like desiccated thyroid)
  • Calms the brain
  • Removes toxins along with Vit. C
  • Increases the efficiency of white blood cells (your immune system)
  • Helps prevent cancer and slows down the course of cancer (along with zinc and selenium!)
  • Can raise testosterone levels in men (and with zinc)
  • Relieves pain! (important news for those with arthritis or other pain issues)
  • Does the opposite of what is listed above about how deficiencies affect you
  • Is nearly miraculous for the depth and scope of its application
  • Saves billions of dollars as well as millions of lives

How will I treat my own low magnesium?? After confirming my situation via the RBC Magnesium lab test (very important to first find out. My doctor did it through Quest Labs),  I know I can’t improve it with oral supplements. The amount I would need simply causes diarrhea.

Instead, I am following the information I’ve read in this book and heard about from others: the use of  ”magnesium oil”, which is magnesium chloride, and I’ll be rubbing it on my skin and following the information on how much. That is apparently the best way to give myself enough magnesium. I have personally ordered the Ancient Minerals brand–found it on the net. I may also use magnesium salts in water, soaking my feet in it. I plan on making sure my husband is tested, as I strongly suspect he is low as a diabetic with digestive issues.

Have questions about this? Get the book from the web or your favorite bookstore. Half.com has several copies. There is much more detail than I listed above which blew me away!

Yes, I feel really good with my natural desiccated thyroid in the treatment of my hypothyroid. But I want to be healthy in all areas, and this is one that looks important to me. (Thanks Stephanie)


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36 Responses to “My discovery of why our MAGNESIUM levels are a huge problem! (mine was)”

  1. Lynn said:

    May 20, 10 at 6:19 am

    What do you mean you have to eat like a mouse? Small amounts or just low carbs? If it the former, it seems to me that maybe something is till wrong ala RT3 or thyroid resistance?

    (From Janie: No RT3 issue: no thyroid resistance. Have plenty of energy and feel great. Just have to eat very low calorie as if I still have a slow metabolism. Will be interested to see if raising magnesium helps, since it improves muscle mass, and muscles are your major calorie burners. Am also being more diligent in adding Vit. C, as research shows that it oxidizes 30% more fat during a moderate exercise bout. I’m an avid walker. Will report on my results, if any)

  2. Alyssa said:

    May 20, 10 at 3:51 pm

    I have a terrible time with my metabolism, as well, even though I have been on dessicated thyroid for 1.5 years. My weight continues to go up. I recently started seeing an RD for the weight issue, who is also hypo. She recommended Epsom salt foot baths and/or Magnesium oil as a way to be able to tolerate more iodine, in which she thinks I am deficient. (I have recently started with a liquid iodine supplement.) Since doing that, and increasing my iodine, I have found that my depression improving (Magnesium is also said to alleviate depression), as well as my energy level. No change on my metabolism yet, but I am hopeful….I’d be interested to hear others experiences, as well.

  3. Gennifer Johnson said:

    May 20, 10 at 4:22 pm

    You may be running to the bathroom because you need something like tomato juice or apple juice to get more absorbtion instead of “running”. I use Magnesium Citrate and Calcium Citrate capsules by Solaray Vitamins. Dr. Wilson from Adrenal Fatigue. Org also says there is some citric acid something(you’ll have to look at the website) specifically to take if you continually have the “running” problem. This Citric something makes sure that it deffinately gets into your system. That’s why your “running”. I can’t sleep w/o my magnesium I
    always take it before bed time.

    (From Janie: thanks for that tip. Unfortunately, the amount I’m doing to need to raise my cellular levels can’t be done orally, I fear, even with the juices mentioned. But I’m glad you shared this!)

  4. Judy Abbie10 said:

    May 20, 10 at 5:05 pm

    I thought most knew how good it is to take. Those women who do calcium daily will find adding about four Magnesium over the counter tablets are a good thing. It stops most of the concrete effects of calcium and also (sorry) pee more.
    My doctor called me after blood work, CBC, and my potassium level was too low. After a week on a scrip I feel an interest in doing something and less body pain. Had no know reason for this to be low plus had on going headache, it’s about gone. Connection I do not know. I do know I was about useles.
    Gone to hit magnesium now had stopped taking it. Just get so tired of taking pills and rebel.
    FT3 FT4 in balance so they were not gone to have me do an adjustment to change the TSH.

  5. Heather said:

    May 20, 10 at 5:31 pm

    I will be getting my Magneseum levels checked also after reading this…wow!!!….I got my Ferritin levels checked two years ago and it was at 4. I was told from a Natural Path that alot of people on thyroid medication do have low levels and to have it checked. I was told normal levels should be in the 90′s I have been taking iron supplements and a vitamin C each night to bring my levels back and have raised it to 76 which took me two years to get it back up…but if I stop taking the iron my levels drop very quickly! I was having hypothryoid symptoms and kept blaming my thyroid….however alot of the sympotoms were because my Feritin levels were so low….eg. hair loss, cold, depression, lack of energy. This is very similar to the symptoms of low Magneseum! Its amazing what we all can go through with our thyroid problems….I really think when you are on thyroid medication it blocks the absorption of alot of things!!!

  6. Toni said:

    May 20, 10 at 5:52 pm

    You can soak your whole body in epsom salts, if you take baths before bed. 2 cups in hot water and submerge as much of yourself as possible.

  7. Melissa said:

    May 20, 10 at 6:01 pm

    Thanks for sharing this Janie. I always thought I might be deficient in magnesium but serum levels were okay. I never would have guessed you could still be deficient at a cellular level! I had all kinds of problems when I was pregnant at the age of 30. After learning more about magnesium I found that supplementation may have prevented or reversed my gestational diabetes. Of course my doctor never mentioned this! I am definitely going to look further into this. Is the cellular test “standard” with any other panel of lab tests?

  8. Janet Wilson said:

    May 20, 10 at 6:34 pm

    Okay, this is SO weird that you’re bringing this up. I’ve had some issues with (*warning: TMI).. eh.. Well, some pelvic floor pain when I have an orgasm. (okay, embarrassing… but, it’s an unpleasant fact of my current sex life) My OB/GYN just told me Tuesday when I was there to start taking Magnesium because she thinks it may be a muscular problem. How interesting that you’ve come across some information that may help me even further with this problem. Thank you SO much for this information. As usual, you’re ahead of the game. :)

  9. L. Morgan said:

    May 20, 10 at 7:38 pm

    Interesting…my blood levels (magnesium) are always on the low side even though I supplement. But, I do take a lot of calcium due to osteoporsis –probably due to GD and/or meds. Then again, over periods of time, I have had issues with other vitamin levels including vitamin D, etc. I have Grave’s Disease and have had RAI. Life has been H***. But, tryin’ to make the besgt of it. I can’t gain weight (except on the occasions when I’ve been hypothyroid. When my levels (TSH) are “correct,” I can’t gain weight. I stay around 113. This is not good for my height. I often hear people complain about not being able to lose weight. But, I experience distress from not being able to gain. I’m pretty sure I have malabsorption issues, but the Gastro has never diagnosed it as one of my problems.

  10. Carol Norris said:

    May 20, 10 at 8:10 pm

    This is VERY interesting.

    I supplement magnesium, but have awful cramps still and want to see if I’m magnesium deficient (maybe potassium?). I’ve searched the web, but can’t find how long you have to stop supplementing magnesium before you can take the RBC mag test?

    Thanks much!

  11. Linda said:

    May 21, 10 at 12:25 am

    Janie,

    Do you eat legumes, nuts, seeds and grains? You may already know this but phytates, which chelate minerals and inhibit enzymes, exist in these foods and must be prepared properly in order to remove them.
    According to the following article from the Weston A. Price Foundation, “research suggests that we will absorb approximately 20 percent more zinc and 60 percent magnesium from our food when phytate is absent.”
    So perhaps phytates in your diet are causing you to not absorb magnesium as well? Just a thought.

    Linda

    (From Janie: Yes, daily. But not willing to give them up, so will use the magnesium oil, plus plan on being prudent with Vit.C, zinc and more. Thanks for telling us about this.)

  12. GW aka Dutch girl said:

    May 21, 10 at 6:09 am

    Hi Janie,

    I have the same issue as you: magnesium supplements keep rushing me to the bathroom. I don’t know if magnesium oil really works. Some say it does, some day it doesn’t which leaves me confused. Also there seems to be a lot of discussion on curezone on which magnesium is actually good or not. A lot of magnesium-supplements are really toxic.

    You might want to read the Magnesium Miracle. I ordered it. She’s the foremost expert on magnesium. Maybe she’s available for an interview? ;-)

    I’m getting a biopsy and possible gene testing in june to see if I have a glutenintolerance or not (since I tested negative for it via a blood test) but that could also explain the magnesium deficiency.

    BTW Janie, what do you think about Low Dose Naltrexone?

    (From Janie: I think LDN is very promising for Cancer and other conditions–just not sure yet with Hashi’s.)

  13. GW aka Dutch girl said:

    May 21, 10 at 6:22 am

    Also I forget to mention that synthetic medicine uses extra magnesium and vitamin c through the liver to cleanse te body of toxins since the body sees synthetic medicine AND synthetic vitamins as toxins. So another reason to only take natural dessicated thyroid medicine! :)

  14. T said:

    May 21, 10 at 6:52 am

    My doctor told me low magnesium can lower your T4 levels, just another thing to think about.

    You need magnesium glycinate or chelated magnesium. Other types of magnesium can cause diarrhea and actually cause you to loose more magnesium, my doctor told me this too.
    I also had low RBC magnesium and I take magnesium glycinate and it worked for me.
    You might also want to stop eating all gluten, this helped me absorb food better and made me feel a lot better.

    Another thing is natural thyroid had way too much T3 in it for me and made me hyper thyroid with low free T4, I felt like it was draining me and depleting me of my nutrients so now I’m back on compounded T4 and its working very well because I fixed all my other health issues not related to my hashimoto’s hypothyroidism. I feel like once you fix everything else health wise that’s wrong with you then T4 converts way better to T3 and you can actually feel good and stable on T4. This is just my own personal experience.

    (From Janie: I’m going to try the Magnesium Chloride, as it’s the same as in nature. We’ll see. Thanks. By the way, be prepared that T4 is not going to cut it long term without issues, no matter how well you feel you convert. :( )

  15. Linda said:

    May 21, 10 at 9:34 am

    Janie,

    You don’t have to give them up. Just soak them properly. I thought I posted the link to the article but guess I didn’t. Here is some info on phytates and how to remove them:

    http://www.westonaprice.org/Living-With-Phytic-Acid.html

    Linda

  16. GW aka Dutch girl said:

    May 22, 10 at 2:37 am

    From what I understood Janie (because I’m still learning about this too) is that by administering a low dose of naltrexone during the night, it temporarily blocks the endorphine receptors. The body thinks “where are my godd$#& endorphines?!?” and raises endorphine production during the night. Endorphines are the most important immunomodulators.

    According to the New England Journal of Medicine (November 13, 2003), “Preclinical evidence indicates overwhelmingly that opioids alter the development, differentiation and function of immune cells, and that both innate and adaptive systems are affected.” Bone marrow progenitor cells, macrophages, natural killer cells, immature thymocites, T- cells and B-cells are all involved. Thus the whole gamut of cells that we associate with the immune response is dependent on naturally produced opiates.

    Dr. Behari has proven that people with auto-immune diseases actually have lowered endorphine levels and thus compromised immunesystems. An immune system without navigation so to speak. Someone with a flamethrower that is also wearing blackened goggles. :D

    So by increasing the endorphines, they start regulating the immune system and start increasing T-cells. Immunomodulators reduce antibody production in patients with excessive antibody production. The body stops attacking, in the example of hashi’s, the thyroid.

    Here’s more info:

    http://ldn.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=forum&action=display&thread=671

    Sorry for my English> it’s not my native tongue…

  17. Alana said:

    May 22, 10 at 5:23 am

    I don’t know an awful lot about magnesium… but, when I first started on my quest for better health, when I finally decided it was time to quit being so embarrassed about 3 years of chronic constipation and do something about it, I looked up what could be causing it online and magnesium popped up as one of the potential causes which jumped out at me (along with hyperparathyroidism and candida overgrowth – hypothyroidism was also a potential cause which I ignored due to consitently being told my thyroid function was normal thanks to years of ‘normal’ TSH results even though my TSH had jumped from 0.477 to 2.98 since commencing on a new brand of Levo-thyroxine, GSK Eltroxin in July 2009). I seemed to have nearly all of the symptoms of low magnesium, a number of them which are very similar to that of hypothyroidism and low cortisol (which I also, almost certainly, had at the time). I even went to my doctor and asked for a blood test for magnesium but of course, the serum magnesium test was ordered and I was told I was normal (which ultimately contributed to my diagnosis of a depressed hypochondriac by the same doctor – he was annoyed that I kept coming in with internet print outs and asking for tests – I think I asked for 3 simple tests all up). Anyways, I started taking magnesium for the constipation which worked for a short time (it was THAT bad – even magnesium didn’t help much!) and that was when I noticed it was helping with the cramps I was getting in my left foot whenever I pointed it, other muscle cramps and twitches I was getting in my left leg, I suppose it also could have helped with the SEVERE lower back pain I had at the time and it definitely helped with the SEVERE heart palpitations and chest pain I was experiencing (thanks to being SEVERELY hypothyroid with PROBABLE low cortisol issues thanks to 8 years on levo-thyroxine and 6 months on the new formula of GSK Eltroxin). I noticed that if I did not take the maximum dose of magnesium daily, my heart palps and chest pain was much worse to the point where I regretted not taking it. Soon after that I discovered STTM and realised it was mainly thyroid causing my trouble (you can imagine my reaction) and was diagnosed a depressed hypochondriac by my (ex)doctor. I have also since read of links between hypothyroidsim and magnesium deficiency in some old journal articles from the 50′s and 60′s online. I wonder why it is we remain deficient when we are well, thyroid wise, and we take supplements and eat a good diet? Why do we need so much of the stuff to bring it to normal levels in our body these days, I wonder??

  18. debbie said:

    May 22, 10 at 11:11 am

    Listen I have started taking Fish Oil and Mag along with Iodoral,selinium, Vit C and once and awhile DHEA here’s what I have to say you are what you eat! So, are animal and vegitation. You eat what they eat. Look at the ingredience even in the vitamens especially fish oil ie…what kind of fish honestly Samon I hear is the best but just like caring for a salt water fish tank and getting the eco system going just right are bodies are no different!

  19. Judy said:

    May 22, 10 at 4:06 pm

    Dr Russell Blaylock Wellness Report, Stomach health, Oct. 2005, pg 14 said:
    As for magnesium, it comes in a variety of configurations. Each differs in
    terms of cost and how well it is absorbed. Magnesium oxide is the most common form on the market and it is about 60% absorbed by most
    people.
    However, some absorb only 20%. Magnesium oxide is very cheap. If you develop diarrhea, you’ll know that the supplement is being poorly
    absorbed. The best-absorbed varieties include the malate, malate/citrate, citrate and gluconate forms. But the latter supplies too little magnesium;
    the one containing malate prevents aluminum absorption. I recommend either the malate or malate/citrate form.
    Magnesium malate/citrate gives you 150 mg. of
    magnesium per capsule. Take two in the morning
    and two in the evening — and make sure it’s
    consumed with food. This powerful supplement
    also helps to induce sleep. Avoid the aspartate form
    since aspartate is an excitotoxin that inhibits
    melatonin release from the pineal gland

  20. Susan Z Swan said:

    May 25, 10 at 7:13 pm

    Thanks, Janie, for–as always–sharing such useful information. Guess this will teach me to actually USE what I have in the cupboard! Epsom salts! They are also remarkably cheap when bought in large bags.

    My research from a year or so back found several scientific studies that showed that a good bath soak in Epsom salts (just feet or preferably full body) should last at least 8 minutes followed by a quick rinse and pat dry. As someone else said above, 2 cups mixed into the bath is the best amount — the addition of appropriate essential oils is a nice side touch to make it smell nice and to create other benefits. Epsom salts draws out toxins and adds back good things like magnesium.

  21. GW said:

    May 26, 10 at 3:53 am

    Janie,
    estrogen dominance can lead to thyroid problems and magnesiumdeficiency. Maybe something to think about.

  22. Catherine said:

    May 28, 10 at 8:20 am

    Janie,

    I was born with Mitral Valve Prolapse, had severe arrhythmia problems, restless leg syndrome, insomnia, muscle twitching, anxiety, hyper sensitivities to all meds and supplements, etc. I was the poster girl for magnesium deficiency.

    Like you, I was very sensitive to magnesium supplements, but my arrhythmia became so bad they were going to do either ablation or put in a pacemaker. This was not acceptable, so I researched like mad and found I could tolerate magnesium taurate (the taurine is specifically to calm down over-sensitive heart tissue) and Peter Gillham’s Natural Calm. I had to very slowly titrate up over many weeks, and I took 3-4 small doses during the day instead of one big dose. The Natural Calm which is ionized Mg citrate and highly absorbable you can make into a large glass and then sip it slowly all day so you don’t get big doses at once that over stimulate your intestines.

    After 20 years of heart-rhythm problems, all my arrhythmia and palps totally stopped and have never returned. All other problems such as RLS and insomnia were cured within weeks. I recently had an echo which showed I now have NO MVP and NO regurgitation! There is research that shows MVP people have an innate mg deficiency which affects the hyaluronic acid and collagen on the heart valves. So with your MVP, your really have to stay on top of this.

    And one of the best things is I can now tolerate thyroid meds better and B vitamins and D that i couldn’t take before.
    So try magnesium taurate (doesn’t affect intestines–stabilizes heart) and the Natural Calm in very low doses many times a day and slowly titrate up. I have used the transdermal oil also, but it does not give me nearly the effect of the other two.
    Good luck, Catherine

  23. Pam said:

    May 29, 10 at 6:59 pm

    here is a magnesium product, Oxy-C, that I have used on and off for a couple of years. I really like it – it makes my heart feel steady and it doesn’t make me rush to the bathroom like the magnesium my ND just sold me. I feel better when I take it and your post reminded me to order some again, as I was out and trying to use the stuff my ND had sold me, which was half the price but, like you, had me running to the bathroom right away.

    http://www.rense.com/products/oxy-c1.htm

    Pam

  24. Ashley said:

    May 30, 10 at 12:28 pm

    Lots of good information on magnesium on this site -

    http://www.afibbers.org/magnesium.html

    Magnesium is particularly important when it comes to ensuring the health of the heart and bones. About 99% of the body’s magnesium stores are found in the bones and tissues and heart tissue is particularly rich in this important mineral. About half of the body’s magnesium stores can be found in bones, so it is clearly a very important mineral as far as osteoporosis prevention is concerned. Only 1% of the body’s magnesium is actually present in the blood so a standard blood analysis is a very poor way of determining overall magnesium status.

    Magnesium absorption tends to decrease as body stores are replenished so there is little chance of overdosing; nevertheless, patients with end-stage renal disease should not supplement with magnesium. Vitamin D is required for optimum absorption so it is important to get adequate unprotected sun exposure daily or to take a vitamin D-3 supplement when using oral replenishment of magnesium.

    Magnesium oxide is the most dense magnesium compound and the one most often used in mineral supplements and multivitamins. It contains 300 mg of elemental magnesium per 500 mg tablet, but is extremely poorly absorbed. Only about 4% of its elemental magnesium is absorbed or about 12 mg out of a 500 mg tablet.

    Magnesium carbonate contains 125 mg of elemental magnesium per 500 mg tablet, but is poorly absorbed.

    Chelated magnesium (magnesium glycinate) is magnesium bound in a complex of glycine and lysine. It is easily absorbed and highly bioavailable. The magnesium (elemental) content per tablet or capsule is usually 100 mg.

    Magnesium orotate contains only 31 mg of elemental magnesium per 500 mg tablet. However, it is well absorbed and has been found highly effective in daily intakes of 3000 mg (186 mg elemental).

    Magnesium citrate contains 80 mg of elemental magnesium per 500 mg tablet. It is far better absorbed than is magnesium oxide. The water soluble form (Natural Calm) contains 205 mg of elemental magnesium per teaspoon, is totally soluble in hot water and is highly bioavailable.

    Magnesium maleate contains 56 mg of elemental magnesium per 500 mg tablet.

    Magnesium gluconate contains 27 mg of elemental magnesium per 500 mg tablet. It is easily absorbed and quick acting.

    All forms of oral magnesium supplements are better absorbed when taken with a meal.

  25. Judy Abbie10 said:

    Jun 02, 10 at 2:05 pm

    Very interesting. Did not know you could do an oil on skin.
    I was expecting to read you did an IV to get the amount you needed.

  26. Isabell said:

    Jun 03, 10 at 2:43 am

    Contact Sales or Denis (he IS sales) at http://www.subtleenergytherapy.com Info on contact page. It is the correct type and delivery method for magnesium. The reason you can’t get your levels up with oral magnesium is it must remain in the intestines about 10 hours and it’s impossible because it creates diarrhea. Their magnesium is in the form of magnesium chloride which had only been available through IV prior to their company and hospitals use it to save lives! It’s kept hushed up but Mag Chloride is helpful for many things. This magnesium chloride is transdermal (through the skin) and has a proprietary energy process that gets results! The other companies simply can’t measure up. The energy process is the crucial part I believe. I use Subtle Energy brand and a friend went out and bought what she thought was comparable locally. I was shown it by the health food store owner. While ingredients are the same/mostly the same, it simply is not working like Subtle Energy Therapy. Also due to my recent experience with it (been on it nearly two years) you need to pay attention to the fact that stress can suddenly deplete you again and it’s best to up the use of your magnesium salts just like you used in the beginning. The salts are for foot soaking. Epsom salts are not the same type. I also had to start using my gel form again when for many months all I’d used was the spray oil. You will also use up more magnesium in the beginning than you will later (so what may be expensive for some initially does go down in cost due to needing fewer products/using product once a week as in the salts). I don’t get commission or anything like that but I like for Denis to know you were sent by me. He has been so helpful and good to me. Expect at first to have some urgency or even loose stools. This goes away soon. Also, when you spread the gel or spray on you will get really sleepy. As my stores built up I didn’t get sleepy from that. You may detox. In my case my hair got greasy pretty quickly through the day. It soon passed. I was able to avert several panic attacks simply by rubbing the gel on when I felt one coming on. Lately, I’ve had a lot of trauma on top of still trying to find the right thyroid for me and have re-activated adrenal fatigue so haven’t been able to stop a panic attack with it. But I think using the gel all over my feet, legs, thighs, arms, has helped me sleep a little better. I still use the oil on my back but it’s personal preference . Anyway, tell him Isabell Bailey referred you. I wish you the best with your experience with these wonderful products. They kill pain right away. A few months later I discovered Upper Cervical Care and that further reduced pain (even from fibromyalgia) I was bedridden most of the time due to crash with chronic fatigue, adrenal insufficiency, bald spots (from the adrenal issue instead of thyroid), hypothyroid problems mixed in. This type of care is specialized care of the C1 and C2 vertebra. Read why it makes such a difference for all types of illness and IS different than general chiropractic which I’d had for many years at upcspine.com (there is also a doctor locator at the site) or get the book “What TIME Tuesday?” by James Tomasi at whattimetuesday.com site James and Rhonda Tomasi are now friends of mine on Facebook and the Upper Cervical Specialist I went to see due to serendipitous events turned out to be my cousin! I discovered this in conversation about families, etc. and he is the son of a cousin I had not seen since we were teens! I had also made a name change but we still would have needed this chat to discover our relationship. UCC was all I could concentrate on until I got more strength. My hair stopped falling out by the second visit! My recent deterioration has been in part when I went 8 weeks without being able to get my UCC adjustment and as I said a number of shocks and traumas in addition to seeking the right meds for hypothyroidism. I’m very thankful for the info here regarding what helps the adrenal fatigue that’s OTC.

  27. ReD said:

    Jun 04, 10 at 1:45 am

    Have you ever tried ZMA?

    (From Janie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZMA_(supplement) )

  28. Marushka France said:

    Jun 14, 10 at 9:59 am

    have your tried himalayan salt (minerals), ingest, bathing in, and have you tried or heard of marine plasma? purity of Himalayan salts, 84 minerals in it.

    1st one: http://www.powerorganics.com
    i am working on list of info if you want a lot more than that. check out his videos. bathing in solution will take toxins out, minerals in. also i can highly vouch for the klamath blue green algae also available at this website. usable protein, bioavailability, micronutrients, enzymes… i highly recommend.

    i’m working on the marine salts/plasma info also – if you have not heard of before. pls let me know

    just reffered to your website and i am learning sooooo much already! thank you! m

  29. Tom said:

    Jun 14, 10 at 5:07 pm

    Coffee causes magnesium deficiency. You can play with supplements or other add ons all day long but until you lose the caffeine you will be lost.

  30. Lisa said:

    Jun 25, 10 at 10:16 pm

    Every time I told my Endo I was having heart palps while trying to raise my dose of NT she wanted to switch me right away to Synthroid. I refused and started on Magnesium the palps disappeared and thanks to this site especially and others I am on my way to a full recovery from Graves treated with RAI. I am fully insured yet have to argue to get Vitamin levels tested, adrenals, ferritin, etc. it should be criminal the way that thyroid disease patients are treated.I find it astonishing that technology and modern medicine is advancing so quickly yet the field of Endocrinology seems stagnant.
    Why do I always seem to know more than my DR???

  31. jared said:

    Aug 04, 10 at 9:30 am

    When you said your Magnesium RBC was low, how low was it? I just got my results back and they were 4.4. The range is 4.2-6.8. Def on the low end. I am always fatigued and have burning, bloodshot eyes 24/7. Help. Thanks

    (From Janie: the bottom of the range, lower than yours. For feedback about your fatigue, go here: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/talk-to-others )

  32. Jerzy said:

    Sep 28, 10 at 7:57 am

    My Magnesium RBC was 3.0! I was soooo sick for 3 months prior to that and no doctor could help me. Now after two months of oral Mg supplementation it’s going up a little bit and I am feeling much better. Had to stop wheat and gluten too. Amongst other things, I found that sustained high norepinephrine levels (arising from various illnesses, stress, physical exertion, sleep deprivation, and so on…) can make your intracellular Mg spiral down.

  33. Gary said:

    Oct 29, 10 at 12:14 pm

    im 36 my mg. has been very low for about six months (between .5 – .9).im always in pain,and depressed. my dr. has me on magox,calcium,vit.d,and potasium. i cant work icant hardly get out of bed . if it wasnt for my kids id probably kill myself. i get mg ivs 1 or twice a week but it dosnt help. whats my problem?

    (From Janie: Gary, sounds like you need your doc to test your thyroid. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork )

  34. Mumzy23 said:

    Nov 24, 10 at 9:13 am

    Try time released Magnesium. Improved muscle function, stops irregular heart beat, and keeps you regular (10 years of IBS diagnosis)without the runs to the bathroom. Finally found a Dr. to put me on Thyroid (always in low normal range) after 10 years of suffering and CFS diagnosis, so very sad I lost a decade of my life. Since on Thyroid, Magnesium w/SRT, Adrenal, and Low dose Naltrexone I feel better than I can even remember and have lost 20 pounds without change in diet or exercise level. It is wonderful to find a Doctor (Dr. Shahrzad Orona in Tempe, Arizona) who doesn’t suggest you have a mental health issue and I even knew how the system worked since I am a RN.

  35. alicia said:

    Aug 27, 11 at 6:23 am

    There are so many kinds of Magnesium supplements listed in the above comments its overwhelming to try to understand what is the best type to use. can someone help narrow it down? I soak in epsoms daily, but someone mentioned that mag isnt right?
    I feel confused.
    Help!

  36. Sue said:

    Jan 17, 12 at 6:06 pm

    Just discovered the greatest magnesium supplement from Jigsaw. It doesn’t cause digestive side effects and is extremely absorbable and affordable. My son has Multiple Chemical Sensitivity and absorption problems and we’ve tried them all including prescription magnesium. Soaking feet in the transdermal is great too but harder to do on a daily basis.


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