More on Acella desiccated thyroid….plus RT3 ratio calculator fine tuned!

 

Screen Shot 2015-11-09 at 12.21.12 PM(This post has been updated to the present day and time. Enjoy!)

In 2011, I had a friendly and informative conversation with Philip Vogt, the President of Acella Pharmaceuticals, and Ellen Gettenberg, Director of Marketing.   Acella is the company which brought out what is often termed a generic form of desiccated thyroid, but appears to be simply another great brand name of NDT. It first caught the eye of thyroid patients in November, 2010.  And I want to pass onto you what I learned:

Acella is different

Acella Pharmaceutical of Georgia, USA, is not like the gigantic pharmaceuticals we often hear about. Instead, they attempt to target the under-served markets, producing medications for particular niches of treatment, or those which are low-profile medications.  They also seek to produce lower-priced competitive versions of certain medications while keeping the quality. Thyroid patients appreciate that, especially after seeing the 2015 horrible rise in price for Armour desiccated thyroid after Forest Labs was bought out by Activias–often triple the original price–besides the fact that patients began to report a return of symptoms.

How they make their version of desiccated thyroid

When it specifically comes to its desiccated thyroid, they go by older version “recipes” – using more dextrose (sugar) and less methylcellulose, which we love  But in their case, the tablets are stated to contain NO cellulose. That is actually good.  Their tablets are also not as hard-pressed as Armour seems to be now. That means patients who like doing their NDT sublingually can make the Acella version work. 

The ingredients

Acella started out with a 65 mg tablet to represent a grain, but by 2011, became a 60 mg tablet for its “grain”.  They also make a 30 mg tablet  (1/2 grain) and a 90 mg tablet (1 1/2 grain). The desiccated thyroid is speculated to come from the same manufactured source as do other brands.

Says the website:

The tablets contain both tetraiodothyronine sodium (T4 levothyroxine) and triiodothyronine sodium (T3 liothyronine) providing 38 mcg levothyroxine (T4) and 9 mcg liothyronine (T3) per grain of thyroid (or per 60 mg of the labeled amount of thyroid). The inactive ingredients are calcium stearate, dextrose (agglomerated) and mineral oil.

Note that like all manufacturers, they use the “synthetic” names for T4 and T3, but desiccated thyroid is NOT synthetic.

Reports by patients

They love it. It’s rare to hear anything negative about it. (If you do have a bad reaction to even Acella’s NP Thyroid, here’s your reason: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ndt-doesnt-work-for-me). So we say “Keep up the good work, Acella!

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ABOUT THE RT3 ONLINE CALCULATOR on STTM: My brainy techs have added three more combinations to the calculator, so it is now ready-to-go to help you figure out your ratio: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/rt3-ratio So far, the feedback is very positive and we have seemed to remove “most” kinks. REMEMBER: you need to put your Free T3/total T3 in first, then all the measurements will appear for the RT3.

WHEN TESTING YOUR THYROID LEVELS: remember NOT to take your desiccated thyroid, or your T3-only, before labs, we learned the hard way. The T3 rises consistently after you take it, giving you false-high reading and freaking your clueless doctor out.  **Picture doctor, eyes bugged out like a giant wasp, looking at lab result** With desiccated thyroid, the T3 will peak in approx. 2 hours, then a slow fall; with T3-only, it can take approximately 4 hours to peak. Recommend labwork found here.

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TYPICAL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS about thyroid, treatment, more issues:  www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/common-questions-answers

119 Responses to “More on Acella desiccated thyroid….plus RT3 ratio calculator fine tuned!”

  1. Shauna

    I don’t know about the other pharmacies, but with Walgreens you really have to go through a few hoops to get it. You call their ON-LINE number (877-250-5823) and specifically ask for NP thyroid by Acella. Just to make sure, I emphasized that it is NOT Armour thyroid. The NP thyroid by Acella is NOT listed in their line up of products on the site (weird huh?) You have to request it. Then there is a funny process you have to go through to get it to your local pharmacy. But on the upside, it is easier the next time! Good Luck!

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  2. Laura Fleckenstein

    Jewel Osco and Marianos in Chicago area have it available within one day of request.

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  3. David

    I’ve been getting 60 mg tablets of NP Thyroid from my local Publix without any problem. Oddly enough my insurance company classifies 30 mg as a T1 drug and 60 & 90 mg as T3. And my copay due to an increase from Acella just went from $14 to $26 in one month. Anyone have any idea why the dramatic price increase?

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  4. Krista

    I started taking Armour a few months after switching from Levothyroxin. When I went in for a recent refill, my pharmacy gave me NP Thyroid without even asking me. I made them change it back to Armour. Not sure why they decided to change. It was more expensive…so maybe??

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    • Joan Fitler

      Actually the Thyroid Np is a very good med…for me anyway. I took Armour for awhile and all of a sudden it stopped working for me so now its Thyroid NP by Acella 🙂

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      • Joan Fitler

        Update on the Acella Thyroid NP. It used to work really good BUT This batch I started taking mid aug was from May 2015 and it has done some strange things to me. For one my labs I just took at the end of Aug 2015 made my levels all over the place ,High T3 and low T4 and TSH rising. I have spoke to the pharmacist at Acella an well as in the Medicinal part of Acella. I was assured the formula has not changed except one of the fillers was removed last year. When I take I become fuzzy headed and sleepy. I was taking it sub-lingual and that was thought to be the problem but now I am taking it orally and the same reaction. I am about done with this Acella 🙁 I may try Natures Thyroid, which my natural path says he likes anyway. If you are having the problem as well with funky labs perhaps it would be good for you to call Acella so they can be aware from someone else too. Acella Pharmacist David (678) 325-5306 Hope things workout for you too 🙂

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        • Annette

          I had my thyroid removed in 2001. It took 10 years and 3 doctors to finally get peace of mind with Armour. Over the past 5 years, I have discovered occasional variations, especially with the naturally dessicated products. . .but my hair/eyebrows never fall out like with Synthroid. Plus, (don’t forget) when Forest Labs sold, Armour was moved twice before it’s new, more expensive home. It sucks getting a “bad batch”…I think variations should be expected from time to time considering how the product is made… Although it’s a little more inconvenient, I found that by only ordering 30 days at a time, instead of 90, it is easier to roll with any variations.

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    • Anna

      Krista,

      Have you been doing fine on Armour? I have been considering switching to it if I cannot get Acella, but most people seem unhappy with Armour these days…?

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  5. Tammy

    I switched to Acella since Erfa is dealing with reformulation problems. I have been taking Acella for almost 2 months so far. I’m not having any problems taking it sublingually. They did not have Acella at any of the pharmacies where I live. I called my doctor & told them of the Erfa problem & I needed to find something else to take & I wanted to try Acella. The doctors office sent CVS pharmacy a script for the Acella. CVS ordered it & had it the next day. I paid $20 co-pay for 180 90 mg tablets, over a 90 day supply. I take 1 1/2 pills per day. I was paying $80 for 500 Erfa Thyroid tablets & it went up to $175. I would imagine the price increase has something to do with the porcine virus that ended up with millions of pigs slaughtered & another reason would be greed of course. I like the NP so I’m sticking with it.

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  6. Cathy Poland

    How can I get Acella desiccated thyroid in Canada?

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  7. Anna

    Still no news on the alledged reformulation of Erfa? I find it so strange that the company cannot find out what is wrong with it, or at least admit something seems to be wrong…I got a 500 ct bottle of 125 mg pills which made me feel like I had taken nothing all…all hypo symptoms returned with a vengeance.

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  8. Cathy Poland

    I live in Canada, have been taking Erfa for years. I just started on a new batch and don’t feel very good. I’d like to get something from the US but don’t know how to get it as I need a US MD prescription. Help!

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  9. Sonia Tolson

    CVS did not have the 60 mg in stock and has told me they are on back order from Acella. They haven’t heard anything else from Acella. They called around to all the CVS in Tucson and it was the same at all of them, they were out of stock. =(

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  10. Rosemary Archer

    I live in a small rural community. I read so many good reviews on NP thyroid that I requested my doctor to switch me from Synthroid to NP thyroid. I have been taking the 60 MG of NP thyroid for approximately 6 months. It was time to increase the NP dosage (which we know I would) but my pharmacy told me that the 90 MG is on back order. Now I read from other people that CVC are saying that the 60 MG is on back order. Hope it is truly just a big demand and nothing more going on that has put the product in a shortage situation.

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  11. Laray

    Hello,

    Does anyone out there have any clues as to why my thyroid medicine stopped working? It appears to be in my blood but not my cells. I was on compounded T3 for 7 years and apparently was told that the T3 receptors can burn out. I tried Nutri Meds porcine Glandular a few months later and it worked! However, I was allergic to it. Eight months later I was cleared of the allergy through N.A.E.T. so I went back on it with no side effects; however, it stopped working too! I am now taking WP Thyroid 2 grains or more and my eyebrows have not grown back and I still have a very sluggish metabolism and insomnia. In Feb. 2014 the T3 only stopped working within ONE week. I did not do anything drastic nor did I lose blood. I still can’t figure it out. It’s almost like people with diabetes when insulin doesn’t get into the cells only the T3 remains in my blood and I believe is not getting into my cells. HELP ANYONE? Does ANYONE have any clues as to what I need to do? ~Laray

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  12. Irmajean Gaines

    I have taken Armour Thyroid 1/2 gr (30mg) for a number of years after a partial thyroidectomy in 1976. I did great on it until about 3-4 years ago when Armour changed their formula. I have taken the thyroid from Acella now for sometime and I do as well as I use to do on Armour. I have switched back and forth between the Armour and the one from Acella and I definitely do better on the Acella brand. I asked for generic Armour and they said they didn’t have it and the Acella is what they gave me. I like it better. Actually, my feet started tingling and it seems to do it more often when I am taking Armour. They don’t tingle as much when I am taking the Acella, in fact, none. SOOOOOOOO…..I guess I am trying to say, I am doing fine on it. Just my
    take, from my experience……!! It is much cheaper also!!

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  13. Paige

    I’ve been taking NP thyroid by Acella for almost a year now and I like it very much, better than any other thyroid med I’ve taken. I took Levoxyl for many years and wanted to change to natural thyroid but was afraid of the change because of how sensitive my thyroid is to ANY change. But when Levoxyl disappeared I took the plunge. I got the info about NP thyroid from Stop the Thyroid Madness. I do take the NP thyroid sublingually every morning and I am quite happy with it. What it’s done is send my T3 up into good, normal ranges without taking anything other than the NP thyroid, whereas for many years I was taking an expensive compounded bioidentical T3 that just stopped working one day and sent me into a scary hyperthyroid state.

    I highly recommend NP Thyroid by Acella. Problem is, I went to my pharmacy today and they said the 90 mg I take is backordered. No real info on why. Does anyone have any reliable information about this?

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  14. Jim

    I started my sad thyroid journey on Levothyroxine prescribed by a doctor who refused to prescribe a natural alternative. I never wanted to start on synthetic, but she wouldn’t listen. I found another doc who typically prescribed Armour. He was knowledgeable about the formula change. He said his patients initially had some problems but he resolved with a dosage change. I still requested NP by Acella as it sounded like the old Armour, and it paid off for me. I’m doing MUCH better. I contacted Acella and asked how they’re doing as a company and if there was anything I could do personally to help their business grow. I was told business is good and to basically keep using the product. NO problem!

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  15. nomorebadnews!

    Any news on the situation with inadequate Acella and the so called shortage or back-ordered NP? I just found out-through another patient-that Erfa is going bad all of a sudden, like Armour did back in 2008. Oh the joys of being stuck in a rut of non functional medicine, and the nightmare of being ‘just another thyroid patient’-yes this is the end of my life part two…I really do feel like I am dying a slow death. I have been taking Erfa all this past year, as I felt it was definitely the best option for me, and after having issues with Acella’s shortages way back in 2013, I feared the worst, and went back on Erfa!

    Well then, I suppose my mental, and physical (chronic infections since May 2014) break down this past year all makes sense now (in part) since Erfa decided to be sneaky, as there is obviously something really wrong with their product, and everyone is talking about it again..This is really sad. And I am only one person out of thousands of other patients!! What gives?

    So, here’s my problem; is there still the issue of shortages with Acella’s NP, and if so, what would be a good sub? Would WP be worth it, or Nature-thyroid? I did really, really well on NP the year of 2011-2013 and a half, but the issue of the shortages was absolutely NOT something I wanted to chance. I took Nature Thyroid before Acella, and did not feel it was working well..although I’ve heard the conversion is slightly less potent? I don’t know..What can I say? Is there anyone out there who does well on WP, or Nature Thyroid? Or does anyone know about the back order issue at Acella? Seriously this is all too much. Can someone please keep this dialogue going..? Are there really shortages, are there back orders nationwide or what? Are there any ANY brands that can help us, and manufacture and deliver a quality and therapeutic hormone replacement? This whole business is really getting to me….what a mess.

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    • Janie Bowthorpe

      Erfa was only bad last year. Patients are reporting doing better on it this year i.e. last years batches ran out. As far as others, it’s really individual what NDT you want to take. Some swear by Armour; others swear by WP or NP, etc. Acella’s NP-Thyroid has been reported easily gotten.

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      • nomorebadnews!

        Thank you, Janie, for the response and helpful feedback…I really should not have ranted so much in my comment-how embarrassing. I just feel so frustrated by all of this. I thought Erfa was a Godsend. I wish these companies would stop playing around with their formulations. I guess I am still not able to forgive the makers of Armour….all of this for what? For money. That’s it. It’s really debased to do this to sick patients in my very bitter opinion.

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  16. Lisa

    i switched from Synthroid to Acella Thyroid in December 2014. My thyroid levels were good but I was experiencing hair loss which I blamed on the Synthroid. I wanted to go back on Armour Thyroid which I had taken previously with good results. Insurance wouldn’t approve Armour due to cost so I was given Acella Thyroid instead. This medicine is awfull!! My hairloss has gone from bad to horrible. I lose handfuls every day, much worse than I was on Synthroid. My levels hormone levels went from stable to all screwed up. My T3,is at top of range but T4 is at very bottom. TSH keeps rising. The only reason I am still on this drug is that I managed to get pregnant a few months after starting it (that fact is the only redeeming thing I will say about this drug). I am still losing handfuls of hair daily even though I am 5 months pregnant and should be experiencing fuller hair. My son is due Dec 3 2015 and I will be going back on Synthroid the day he comes out. If you are thinking about going on Acella thyroid and having hairloss, I strongly recommend you find something else. This medicine is making me go bald!

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    • Janie Bowthorpe

      Lisa, how frustrating!! But there’s hope, because what is happening to you is not directly because of Acella. It’s happening because of what Synthroid has done to you, which NDT like Acella “reveals”, as does your high Free T3, which is called pooling and is due to the same problems. Start with this: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ndt-doesnt-work-for-me

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    • Joan Fitler

      Hi Lisa,
      Its a miracle I got to see your remark. I say that because that is what the batch I started taking from May has done to me.High T3 and low T4, its not a coincidence. I have spoke to the pharmacist at Acella an well as in the Medicinal part of Acella. I was assured the formula has not changed except one of the fillers was removed last year. When I take I become fuzzy headed and sleepy. I was taking it sub-lingual and that was thought to be the problem but now I am taking it orally and the same reaction. I am about done with this Acella 🙁 I may try Natures Thyroid, which my natural path says he likes anyway. Since you are having the problem as well with funky labs perhaps it would be good for you to call Acella so they can be aware from someone else too. Acella Pharmacist David (678) 325-5306 Hope things workout for you too 🙂

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  17. Carol Chase

    I had a total thyroidectomy in March 2013 and was one levothyroxine for 6 months. During that time my hands and feet started to go numb and I had pretty bad joint pain. The doctor sent me to a osteo Dr and he said I needed surgery for carpel tunnel. I refused and asked my Endo to put me on Armour which fixed all the neurological problems, weight gain, and tiredness. I was on Armour for 1.5 years (at $50.00 month). I wanted to try Acella NP Thyroid because everyone said it worked great and is much less expensive ($10.00 month). I have been on it for 6 months and the neurological problems/joint pain are coming back as is the weight gain. I really want to switch back to Amour but it is so expensive. Is there anything else I can do to get the Acella to work better. I am taking 60 mg 2 x day.

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    • Janie Bowthorpe

      Carol, your problem could be that 120 mg isn’t optimal for you on NP Thyroid. Check this out: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/natural-thyroid-101

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    • Karen Gardner

      Hi Carol. I had a TT in 2000 for pap cancer and was on Armour for 15 years with the reformulation started to not work right. The latest refill by Actavis did not work at all. Tried Erfa for 3 months and felt like T3 was building and affecting thinking. Started on NP Thyroid 1 grain twice a day and felt better calmer. On two weeks now and notice I get foggy anout 4 hours after taking. Today I took a Vit C. Zinc. Just 10mg and chewed a calcium and my head feels clear and great. If it comes back may try another zinc or the Adrenal Complex and Dhea 10mg compounded time release. I take an Alive Multivitamin at lunch time and in the evening I take a Ferrochel that has some iron and B12 Vit C Folate in it. I don t eat enough beef. I eat mostly chicken and salmon and turkey. I control blood sugar with diet and some cinnamon. Hope this helps Karen.

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  18. Harriet Edwards

    I am loving the NP Thyroid. Have been on it since 8-7-21015. It has changed my life. Had been on Synthroid for 15 or so years and felt horrible. Could not get a doctor to change it. Finally found someone who would. Life is so much better.

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  19. Katie

    Has anyone else heard of T150 by Xymogen? My integrative wellness dr in Florida put me on this back in 2011. It’s not a prescription, just a supplement. Lately, my depression, fatigue and weight gain have all come back.
    I moved to Southern California last year and need to find a good dr here who will help me get on something like NP Thyroid or Armour. I need relief!

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    • Janie Bowthorpe

      Katie, T150 is bovine NDT, but as happens all the time, doctor’s don’t get their patients to raise it high enough. Thus, symptoms come back. And another problem…T150 has a lot of other ingredients in it that as you raise it to get enough Bovine thyroid, you are also raising those other ingredients. It’s problematic. If it was me, I’d MUCH rather be on ThyroGold if I was going to be on something over-the-counter. You can google it.

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  20. Tracy

    Hi ! is there a website i can order NP Thyroid with out a prescription?. I’ve been ordering Armour from a canadian one but the price keeps going up and up, and they don’t carry NP. I’m ready to switch but need a source to order from. Thanks ! Email me here: aurasutra@aol.com

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  21. Ellen

    I am wondering if Acella NP thyroid was recently reformulated. I started on Armour in 2007, and switched to erfa when Armour was reformulated. I then switched to NP thyroid when erfa was reformulated. My lasted batch of NP thyroid looks shinier than my old batch – kind of like when erfa reformulated. I haven’t taken it yet, just wondered if anyone knows anything about this

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  22. Linda

    Thank you so much for these reassuring comments. I have been on dessicated thyroid for about 5 years. Realizing from your info, that I must have been on erfa. Over the past 6 months I have lost about half of my hair. I also get horrendous muscle cramps. I was doing so great, but there has been a radical change. I also started noticing an unpleasant body odor and smell in my urine. Now I have cut down the erfa to 1/2 tab, the smell is gone, but my test shows dangerously low… hair still falling. An order of synthroid is on it’s way, but I went that route years ago… it wasn’t working for me. Not sure where to turn. Can we lodge a complaint?

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    • chris

      Linda, I just read your comment on body and urine odor, have had the same experience but no idea why or where it comes from, are you thinking low levels of thyroid causes this, or the drug itself. Curious, I have never come across this until now…..thank goodness for forums.

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  23. K. McLay

    I love NP Thyroid made by Acella. Several years back I had settled on Armour by Forest. It did ok in comparison to other meds I had tried but I still had trouble with some hair loss and fatigue days. While traveling in 2010 the pharmacy switched me unknowingly to the Acella brand. I started losing weight I had been trying to get ride of for ages and ended up realizing I was on a new thyroid med. My hair stopped falling out as well. When that bottle of meds ran out I got Armor again and my weight started to rise again, and my hair began to fall out all over again. That was when I realized it was the NP Thyroid by Acella that had made such a great difference. I made the switch permanently to Acella and have never looked back.

    Fast forward to 2015… I recently returned home from vacation and felt so wore out. I just thought it was because I had over done it while traveling. A week or so later I realized my hair had been falling out. So, I just checked my med bottle and realized the pharmacy sent me the wrong meds, lol…. Instead of Acella, I’ve been taking Armour by Forest for the last few weeks. It all makes sense now! I’ll be running back into the arms of Acella’s brand.

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  24. Edie Foss

    I have been taking the NP Thyroid as a sublingual for almost 3 months now. The Armour just “stopped” working as well as it had been over the past year. I love the NP Thyroid as a sublingual….I take 1 grain 3X per day, and this way it doesn’t interact with food and such. Plus, my armour had gone from about $13 a month to $50 over the course of about a year. I can get NP Thyroid at the cost of a generic….$12 for a one month supply. That works for me!!

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  25. Lisa

    Hello All,
    I had my Thyroid ablated a few years ago and have been on the Ride. Started on Levothyroxine then Synthroid currently on Armour Thyroid and I have a continuous cough and nothing comes up. I have joint pain swelling around eyes and blurry vision. Tired all the time. I have been to eye doctors and no body knows what it is? I have gained 30 lbs and can’t get it off no matter what I eat. I just feel Wrecked. Do you think that Acella NP would make me feel normal again? Thanks.

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  26. Ramona

    In hindsight, I started noticing lack of energy and more edgy in 2011. Dr Started testing my thyroid. Progressively gotten worse, thought is was pre menopause. They put me on anti depressants, seemed to work for a very short time. The decline was subtle but then I was ready do divorce my very sweet, patient, kind husband. I refused to leave the dr office without something. They tested my Thyroid and it was very high and they put me on 50mg Levothyroxine. The 1st day I felt better! Anything was better but not even close to normal. Within 3 mo. I was not getting out of bed, Anger, critical of EVERYTHING. Joint pain like I had the Flu, Migraines, constipation, dizzy, hot flashes that made my head want to explode. Reported this to my Dr and requested Acella NP. He wouldn’t prescribe it because he hadn’t before and my levels were within range. I requested a referral to an endocrinologist. I had remembered one day I had forgotten to take it and It was an awesome day! So with the cooperation of my husband we started experimenting. I tried 1/2 pill, initially worked but that didn’t work long term, tried 1 day on 1 day off. initially this worked too but didn’t work long term. Now I am not taking it at all, suffered through anxiety, paranoia, anger, futility. But no aches, migraines or severe hot flashes. Waiting to see a endocrinologist and starting to take Thyrogold In an effort to find anything that will work. My symptoms are very severe where they incapacitate me. I hide in my room literally all day on the worst days. The other days it take everything Ive got to do the simplest tasks. I continue to pray that I will be made aware of people/medicine/solutions. I purchased both books, stop the thyroid madness. Now I have to find the energy to get through them….. I am warry to purchase non reputable solutions. I am taking D as I have had problems in the past. Having an ok day, enough to write this. Everything seems to take so long when every day is precious and my 10 yo life is passing us by.

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    • Janie Bowthorpe

      We are so sorry you are having problems. But there’s hope! Not only have a huge body of patients discovered that levo is the worst way to treat hypothyroidism (http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/t4-only-meds-dont-work) but you are describing some symptoms of now having an adrenal problem (http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info).

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      • Ramona

        I was so grateful for your response. I finally went to the endocrinologist last week. Asked for Free T4, Free T3, TPOab, TgAb. She said she would humor me and did them. TgAb-.09, TSH 5.33, Free T4 0.7, Free T3 2.9, TPOab 654.2. My last comprehensive Metabolic Panel was 11/9/15. I couldn’t get the saliva test, she did a 24 hr urine test. Results cortisol uc/gCr 20.75, cortisol ug/L 27.60, cortisol ug/day 29.8, creatinine 24hr 1436 mg/d, creatinine 133 md/gL. She said it was within normal range. She did an ultrasound and it showed a problem with my thyroid. She gave me a prescription for 32.5 MG. That is like 1/2 grain. I told her I had read I needed more and would need to bump up after a couple of weeks. She would not give any more. I did purchase on line some Thyro-Gold 150mg and 300mb. I started taking Ashwagandha Root, I had read if your cortisol is high it will lower it and if its low will raise it. I am taking Vit C 500mg, Magnisium 750mg, Vit D 2000iu. I had more energy and was less grumpy but still unable to rid the anxiety enough to leave my room. I put off taking the low dose nature throid as long as possible in order to try and preserve it as long as possible if I needed to bump it. I have only been on it 3 days and was out of my room the first day and the 2nd day. Not so much third day. I know there is a concern I may have adrenal issues but I can’t wait for different results. I do believe the dose is way too low. I am hoping the Ahwagandha will help my cortisol levels. I am thinking of mixing the dose of 32.5 mg nature throid and 150mg thryo-gold. The Endo. said she did not recommend mixing thyroid brands stating they were not dependable regarding labeling and dosages even though they say 150mg. She stressed how unsure and untrusting she was of this treatment and the nature throid. She said the T3 is very very strong discouraging me from doing anything on my own. It has made me second guess….. What is your opinion? My mind wasn’t clear enough until now to actually find the saliva test. Will any of the supplements I am taking make it so I cannot take the test? I so appreciate your dedication and information and books.

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  27. Susanelizabeth Turner

    Hate np thyroid. Took it for 2 days after taking Armour felt horrible. All over, even my joints ached. Switched back to Armour today.

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    • Janie Bowthorpe

      Susanelizabeth, that probably wasn’t the fault of NP Thyroid. Instead, as a better NDT than Armour, it was probably revealing this: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ndt-doesnt-work-for-me

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      • Susanelizabeth Turner

        I’m not sure what you mean above: “Instead, as a better NDT than Armour….”:. I was on Armour for yrs and did well. I switched to Levothyroxine when my insurance changed. Then, after months on Levo, went to Armour again, did great, blood work was great as well(I have Hashi’s also). Found out about a cheaper one, NP and switched to same amt(within days after my tests) that I was on for Armour and tanked immediately. I was horribly sick. I’ve already read the article you sent me here. Read it some months back. Thx for the feedback.

        I was on 125 Levo, then went to 60 mg Armour, then to 60 NP. Dr said on the conversion charts I might be able to do the 60 esp since my TSH was way too low. However the more I read(your lit) and others, I wonder if my heart racing and thumping so hard is because it’s too little, not enough. She plans to retest in 4 wks(she’s great and will test and change meds for me as I request since she’s a reg MD not a specialist). However, she’s very supportive of my natural methods since I have healed so many things naturally(and maintain great A1C tho Type 1 on insulin pump)

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        • Janie Bowthorpe

          Armour went bad for a lot of people beginning in January 2015 after Forest was bought out by Activas. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2015/09/19/armour-and-unhappy-thyroid-patients/

          And yes, 60 mg is simply a starting dose we have to raise from to seek our optimal dose, we’ve found repeatedly.

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          • Susanelizabeth Turner

            Thx! I just got home but will be spending more time on your site, reading (again) some of the material. I saw the conversion charts online(other sites) that’s why I asked her to start me at 60, but even the day on it was bad and second, much worse. Do you have a more accurate conversion chart? I wonder now if it would be safer to go ahead and do 60 and then do another 60 later in the day(never knew about splitting it up till lately). Or maybe I should do 60 and then half of a 60 later. I am just tired of being tired,shaky, jittery and feeling so sluggish, not sleeping. One day about 2 wks ago, I went ahead and popped a 120 armour I had left over here from 11 months ago and I was suffering the same symptoms. Dr won’t retest since I just got tested on the 9th (6 days ago)

          • Janie Bowthorpe

            There’s no such thing as an accurate conversion chart! The 60 mg as a starting dose just seemed to fit most and wasn’t too high to start on for most. We found it better to raise by only half a grain, because one’s body has to adjust to the powerful direct T3, and we don’t want to overwhelm. But there’s another reason for the starting dose and 1/2 grain raises: in case someone has a cortisol or iron problem. And that may be you! Read this: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ndt-doesnt-work-for-me

  28. Gloira

    Do I need a RX for Acella? Or can I just go to Walgreen’s and get it.

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  29. Brenda

    Has anyone had a problem with rash with hives from thyroid NP? After 6 months on it, I have had a rash for over Month that doctors not sure why. Monday going to see a skin specalist

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