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(This post gar­ne­red a lot of atten­tion, up to FIFTY com­ments just a few hours after it went up. Peo­ple are very inte­res­ted in sha­ring their expe­rien­ces in coping with the shor­ta­ges! See below and add your own.)

This year will go down in his­tory as shoc­kingly mise­ra­ble for enligh­te­ned thy­roid patients on natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid.

First came a refor­mu­la­tion in the most popu­lar brand – Armour by Forest Labs. Patients world­wide in groups and forums repor­ted a serious return of their hypothy­roid symp­toms on this pro­duct. A huge disappointment.

Second came the pro­duc­tion shut­down of the two gene­ric makers of desic­ca­ted thy­roid: Time Caps Labs and Major Phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals. It’s the first step in the FDA’s com­pliance plan to corral all grandfathered-in drugs (drugs already in exis­tence when the the FDA was crea­ted in 1938) and make them each prove the effi­cacy and safety of their medi­ca­tion via very expen­sive cli­ni­cal trials.  i.e. over 110 years of safe and effec­tive use of desic­ca­ted thy­roid is not enough for the FDA?? We are still wai­ting to see the out­come of that plan with RLC  and Forest Labs. – the two who were actually in exis­tence before 1938.

Third came demand being grea­ter than supply and shor­ta­ges. Because of infor­ma­tive patient web­si­tes like Stop the Thy­roid Mad­ness,  Sheila’s TPA-UK, Lyn’s Thy­roi­dUK, Stephanie’s Natu­ral Thy­roid Choi­ces, some areas of about.com (and other good web­si­tes I don’t mean to miss here), plus many fine patient forums and groups,  patients found out why they had con­ti­nuing symp­toms on T4 thy­ro­xine, and demand for natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid grew exponentially.

STTM then crea­ted a list of options for all thy­roid patients until the shor­ta­ges resol­ved them­sel­ves, and also crea­ted CDT (Coa­li­tion for Desic­ca­ted Thy­roid) where patients could dis­cuss alter­na­ti­ves in a sup­por­tive and fac­tual atmosphere.

And we’ve seen some inte­res­ting expe­rien­ces and comments:

The new Armour: One grain tabs star­ted to appear on some phar­macy shel­ves the past month.  Other phar­ma­cies have still been wai­ting.  Many patients appear to have switched to other alter­na­ti­ves, though. One gal still on it feels she is fin­ding suc­cess by adding T3 to the amount of new Armour she is on.  Time will tell if patients can ever find suc­cess with the newly for­mu­la­ted Armour, and most feel it’s a huge loss.

Natu­reth­roid and Westh­roid: Patients repor­ting on their switch to either of RLC Lab’s two iden­ti­cal pro­ducts report doing well, having to raise it slightly or lower it slightly, or just not liking them at all. Others have had a hard time fin­ding it on their phar­macy shel­ves, but have been seeing some appear in the last few weeks.

Erfa’s Thy­roid from Canada: When it became clear that the FDA was allo­wing this exce­llent pro­duct to be ship­ped to patients, many switched and had their presc­rip­tions faxed to a Cana­dian phar­macy. Pri­ces at many of those phar­macy web­si­tes were dou­bled after presc­rip­tions star­ted to come in from the US. Most patient who stuck with it seem to love it, repor­ting you can do it sublin­gually, as well. A few haven’t been impres­sed, but were fin­ding their for­mer suc­cess by rai­sing it.

Com­poun­ded desic­ca­ted thy­roid: In spite of being a more expen­sive option, some patients found suc­cess with this. Others lear­ned they pre­fe­rred the filler to be Aci­dophi­les.  If not the lat­ter, Mic­rocrys­ta­lline Cellu­lose was pre­fe­rred over Methyl Cellu­lose – the lat­ter which appea­red to les­sen the effec­ti­ve­ness of the com­poun­ded thyroid.

Synthe­tic T4 and Synthe­tic T3: some patients switched back to the synthe­tic com­bi­na­tion, but many report that it hasn’t been as effec­tive as desic­ca­ted thy­roid was.

Other options: Patients moved to OTC pro­ducts like Nutri-Meds, etc, which can be much wea­ker. Others sought desic­ca­ted thy­roid from other coun­tries and have found success.

So I’d like to hear from all of you.   Did you go back to synthe­tic T4?  What desic­ca­ted thy­roid did you switch to? What wor­ked and why? What didn’t work for you and why?  What pro­duct do you hope to switch to once you run out of your current meds?

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*Want to be infor­med of these ‘fringe web­site’ blog posts?  Curious what’s on radi­cal Janie’s mind? Just use the Noti­fi­ca­tions on the left below the links.

* The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! I love sales! Spread the word!

* Pre­fer STTM in book form with more detail? You can read about it here.

*Need options for thy­roid treat­ment during the current shor­ta­ges due to demand being grea­ter than supply? Go here.

I once crac­ked open an egg to find it had TWO shells.  And that oddity is equi­va­lent to fin­ding an Endoc­ri­no­lo­gist who sup­ports the use of natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid. 

Voila!! ~~ you can lis­ten and talk to an Endo who does just that on this Thurs­day evening’s popu­lar THYROID PATIENT COMMUNITY CALL on TalkShoe. 

His name is Dr. Gary Pep­per, Board Cer­ti­fied by the Ame­ri­can Boards of Inter­nal Medi­cine, and Endoc­ri­no­logy and Meta­bo­lism and editor-in-chief of metabolism.com.  Besi­des ser­ving many years in dis­tin­guished lea­dership posi­tions, he was selec­ted as one of the top 100 phy­si­cians in New York City by New York Maga­zine and is also a fea­tu­red expert with CNBC and ivi­llage on topics of dia­be­tes and endoc­ri­no­logy. He sta­tes:  Almost daily I reread the words of Sir William Osler: “It’s often more impor­tant to know what sort of per­son this disease has than to know what disease the per­son has.”

i.e. this is one of a rare but gro­wing breed of doc­tors who sup­ports what we as thy­roid patients already know – that desic­ca­ted thy­roid is a five-star hypothy­roid treat­ment and T4-only is about as effec­tive as a dough­nut diet for most. And lo and behold,  Dr. Pep­per is an Endoc­ri­no­lo­gist! Of course, I can give no gua­ran­tees how he is as a doc­tor in his own office, but I do appre­ciate his unders­tan­ding that T4-only treat­ment may not be the best way to treat hypo.

Join us this Thurs­day eve­ning, 6 pm Paci­fic, 7 pm Moun­tain, 8 pm Cen­tral and 9 pm Eas­tern by clic­king on the first link above tit­led Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call.  When on that page, you’ll also see the exact day and time left before the call. You’ll be able to lis­ten to the call right on your com­pu­ter, or you can dial in and lis­ten on your phone. There is also an option to talk one-on-one live with Dr. Pep­per and Janie.

And remem­ber: neither I or Dr. Pep­per can offer per­so­nal medi­cal advice or pro­vide indi­vi­dual spe­ci­fic coun­se­ling. Those are bet­ween you and your per­so­nal phy­si­cian.

***P.S.  Phar­ma­Ti­mes this month repor­ted that this quarter’s sales of  Synth­roid (levothy­ro­xine) were up 3.7% to $134 million by Abbott Labs. Sad for most of those patients. If you know of someone who has been put on a T4 med, send them here: www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/t4-only-meds-dont-work or to the audio page here: www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/audio-shorts (third one down).

*Want to be infor­med of these ‘fringe web­site’ blog posts?  Curious what’s on radi­cal Janie’s mind? Just use the Noti­fi­ca­tions on the left below the links.

* The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! I love sales!

* Pre­fer STTM in book form with more detail? You can read about it here.

*Need options for thy­roid treat­ment during the current shor­ta­ges due to demand being grea­ter than supply? Go here.

On the heels of an exce­llent Thy­roid Patient STTM Com­mu­nity Call on iodine with guest Stepha­nie Buist (see below), it was just announ­ced by the Food Stan­dards Autho­rity of Aus­tra­lia and New Zea­land (FSANZ) that Aus­tra­lia will add the mic­ro­nu­trient iodine to bread. New Zea­land already star­ted that prac­tice in Sep­tem­ber of last year. 

The announ­ce­ment men­tions the impor­tance of iodine to thy­roid func­tio­ning, as well as for infant brain and ner­vous sys­tem, both during and after preg­nancy.  For the lat­ter, it sta­tes “Not having enough iodine during preg­nancy and early childhood can cause deve­lop­men­tal delay and lead to reduc­tions in men­tal per­for­mance. This damage prior to 2 – 3 years of age is irreversible.”

Appa­rently, the  soils of Aus­tra­lia and New Zea­land are not too pro­li­fic in iodine, and patient levels have been revea­ling that fact for deca­des. But Stepha­nie Buist, the friendly and know­led­gea­ble owner of the yahoo group Iodine, as well as a thy­roid can­cer sur­vi­vor, sta­tes that even most US soils are beco­ming deple­ted.  It’s not just a pro­blem of the northern US “goi­ter belt”, Europe or Africa anymore.

The impor­tance of iodine goes even farther than thy­roid func­tio­ning, preg­nancy and infant brain deve­lop­ment. It has a key role in breast health, your immune sys­tem, bones, estro­gen meta­bo­lism, lung health, eyes, and can­cer pre­ven­tion. The iodine4health web­site lists many bene­fits as well as areas not unders­tood yet.

How much do we need? Experts like Abraham, Flechas and Browns­tein will empha­ti­cally state that we pro­bably need more than is recom­men­ded.  At least 50 mg of iodine may be neces­sary for awhile to bring your levels back up to healthy amounts, besi­des stop the the side effects of iodine on hashi­mo­tos disease.  i.e. thin­king you are get­ting enough iodine natu­rally from foods, or even from natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid like Natu­reth­roid, Erfa’s Thy­roid, or com­poun­ded, may not be so.

How do you find out if you are iodine defi­cient? Stepha­nie sta­ted on the Com­mu­nity Call that the majo­rity of folks pro­bably are defi­cient. But if you want to be sure, you can do the Iodine Loa­ding Test.

What are good iodine sup­ple­ments? Lugols is an liquid variety, and my hus­band and I per­so­nally use it in our mor­ning juice or Emer­gen C (my hus­band uses Emer­gen C in water since he’s dia­be­tic, and it’s a good way for him to get his Vita­min C).   In pill form is Iodo­ral, deve­lo­ped by Abraham.  You can goo­gle either and find some web­site sour­ces. Also good to take with iodine sup­ple­men­ta­tion is mag­ne­sium, Vita­min C, and sele­nium, which helps with the detox effects.

You can lis­ten to the recor­ding of Stephanie’s and my con­ver­sion on iodine by going to the link below for Epi­sode 5 of the Thy­roid Patient STTM Com­mu­nity Call. (Yes, I will correct the skip­ping you hear in my voice next time.)

Read Diana’s expe­rience with iodine hel­ping her get off desic­ca­ted thy­roid. Not something we can all do, but it hap­pe­ned to her!

*Want to be infor­med of these ‘fringe web­site’ blog posts?   Curious what’s on radi­cal Janie’s mind? Just use the Noti­fi­ca­tions on the left below the links.

* The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! I love sales!

* Pre­fer STTM in book form with more detail? You can read about it here.

*Need options for thy­roid treat­ment during the current shor­ta­ges due to demand being grea­ter than supply? Go here.

I con­fess that I hated my Che­mistry class in high school, even if Mr. Bowen tried to make it inte­res­ting and favo­red the girls over the boys in class.  But lo and behold, one of those ele­ments on the Perio­dic Table ended up having a sig­ni­fi­cant role in all or our lives as thy­roid patients: iodine.

Iodine can be found in every inch your body, but is espe­cially pre­va­lent in your thy­roid, which makes it an inte­res­ting ele­ment for those of us with thy­roid disease.  The active thy­roid hor­mone T3 (triio­dothy­ro­nine) is made up of three iodine mole­cu­les, and the sto­rage hor­mone T4 (thy­ro­xine) has four iodine mole­cu­les. In fact, without pro­per amounts of iodine, your thy­roid wouldn’t even func­tion well.

An opti­mal amount of iodine has also been shown to improve breast health, pro­vide can­cer pro­tec­tion, remove toxins like Bro­mide, fluo­ride, mer­cury etc…and in some cases, has hel­ped thy­roid patients either lower their dose, or even get off thy­roid treat­ment. Thy­roid patient Diana tells of get­ting off thy­roid treat­ment due to iodine on the Sto­ries of Others page.

***This Thurs­day eve­ning on the Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on TalkShoe, we’ll have guest Stepha­nie Buist, owner of the Yahoo group Iodine and a 9-year thy­roid can­cer sur­vi­vor who strongly feels iodine has been a huge fac­tor.   We’ll explore how much iodine a per­son needs, the loa­ding loa­ding test, the best sour­ces of iodine sup­ple­men­ta­tion, whether you need iodine, as well as con­tro­ver­sies with iodine use, inc­lu­ding Hashi­mo­tos disease or bad reac­tions.  Times for the call are 6 pm Paci­fic, 7 pm Moun­tain, 8 pm Cen­tral and 9 pm Eas­tern. You can lis­ten right on your com­pu­ter, or call to talk directly to Stepha­nie and Janie. Join us!

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Sheila Tur­ner of TPA-UK  (Thy­roid Patient Advocacy-UK www.tpa-uk.org.uk) is star­ting the ball rolling on something very inte­res­ting:  they have con­tac­ted a lab in the UK who will do a qua­li­ta­tive analy­sis of the old Armour vs. the new refor­mu­la­ted Armour to get a break­down of the ingre­dients, and poten­tially give us an idea WHAT is cau­sing thy­roid patients to have a return of their hypothy­roid symp­toms since Forest refor­mu­la­ted Armour in 2009.

Howe­ver, says Sheila, this will cost in the region of £600 to £700 (appro­xi­ma­tely $1100).  Says Sheila, “If there are enough patients who are willing and able to help raise the fun­ding requi­red by giving wha­te­ver we can afford, we could finally get the ans­wer as to which chan­ges have been made in the new for­mula and whether this inc­lu­des chan­ges in the active (as some have sug­ges­ted) and the inac­tive ingre­dients and put this baby to rest once and for all.” 

You can con­tact Sheila at the above web­site and make a pledge.  As I write this, they have already have £100 pledged.

UPDATE: Stepha­nie above has agree to be the ‘Pledge and Money Collec­tor’ for the lab work nee­ded to analyze the old vs new Armour . She can be con­tac­ted at ladybugsandbees@sbcglobal.net

*Want to be infor­med of these ‘fringe web­site’ blog posts?   Curious what’s on radi­cal Janie’s mind? Just use the Noti­fi­ca­tions on the left below the links.

* The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! I love sales!

* Pre­fer STTM in book form with more detail? You can read about it here.

*Need options for thy­roid treat­ment during the current shor­ta­ges. Go here.

If you have been kee­ping up with my posts, you’ll know that thy­roid patients have been facing a shor­tage of desic­ca­ted thy­roid for many weeks, pro­bably due to sharp inc­rea­sed demand i.e. thy­roid patients have been fin­ding out how lousy T4-only treat­ment like Synth­roid has been for them, and how much bet­ter desic­ca­ted thy­roid is. 

That demand became espe­cially true after a refor­mu­la­tion of Armour by Forest Labs in 2009 drove patients to RLC’s Natu­reth­roid and Westh­roid. The “new” Armour cau­sed a return of hypo symp­toms plus new mad­de­ning ones, inc­lu­ding pal­pi­ta­tions and sleep pro­blems never seen before.  As Julia Roberts said in the 1990 movie Pretty Woman: Big mis­take, Big, Huge.

In addi­tion, it didn’t help when Time Cap Labs, a phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal which made plenty of desic­ca­ted thy­roid for other phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals, stop­ped pro­duc­tion after being con­tac­ted by the FDA. This action was pro­bably in line with their aims to make long-term unap­pro­ved drugs become appro­ved, even if the timing was inc­re­dibly stupid.

As all the above was hap­pe­ning, panic ensued! 

We’ve heard all varie­ties of nega­tive pre­sump­tions from thy­roid patients about what cau­sed the shor­tage, inc­lu­ding an FDA cons­pi­racy and an overt belief that desic­ca­ted thy­roid is about to be remo­ved.  Patients have threa­te­ned law suits, bla­med phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals, and/or sent nume­rous let­ters to FDA plea­ding to keep desic­ca­ted thy­roid as if it was to be gone tomo­rrow. Even I, at first, fell in line won­de­ring about the FDA.

But it star­ted to dawn on me, as it has others, than we have been jum­ping the gun, not giving enough empha­sis to facts and reason.

And finally, facts and rea­son are star­ting to appear on blogs and groups:

1) Yes, Forest Labs, the makers of Armour, and RLC, the makers of Natu­reth­roid and Westh­roid, state they have not been con­tac­ted by the FDA. We have no rea­son to dis­be­lieve them!

2) Yes, RLC is wor­king hard to catch up, as is Ame­ri­can Labo­ra­to­ries, both state. We also have no rea­son to dis­be­lieve them!

3) Yes, thy­roid patients who know the supe­rio­rity of desic­ca­ted thy­roid have always been there to sup­port them. Glad to see that recog­ni­tion in blog and group postings.

4) Yes, as health wri­ter Mary Sho­mon has sta­ted, information-gathering, brains­tor­ming, and com­mu­ni­ca­ting with our doc­tors is a good thing to be doing.  That is con­trary to making panicky nega­tive pre­dic­tions about desic­ca­ted thy­roid,  rall­ying for law suits, and fee­ding ideas to the FDA that may not be there in the first place.

5) Yes, we need to put energy in let­ting the world know about the supe­rio­rity of desic­ca­ted thy­roid treat­ment in our lives. That is where our power lies in the face of clue­less Endoc­ri­no­lo­gists and their equally-clueless medi­cal boards like AACE. 

6) Yes, we need to lis­ten to and sup­port the phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals and labo­ra­to­ries which give us the desic­ca­ted thy­roid we need. It’s they who have to walk the line with the FDA. Let’s lis­ten to their cau­tions and sup­port them. 

Stran­gely, there are still mis­con­cep­tions being repor­ted by patient blogs and posts:

1) That we don’t know what cau­sed the shor­tage. But we do! Demand is as logi­cal as it gets.  All of us have suc­cee­ded in get­ting the word out! That is exactly why I crea­ted STTM in the first place!  And by emails I get every week, it’s clear that it’s been working.

2) That groups like the Coa­li­tion for Desic­ca­ted Thy­roid (CDT) have a wait-and-see atti­tude. That is as silly as saying STTM wants to ban T4 or encou­ra­ges self-treatment. There are simply some thy­roid patients who don’t agree with the extreme panic and nega­tive pre­sump­tions that have been going on, and want more rea­son in our pro-activity!  Patients have been encou­ra­ged to spread the word in any way pos­si­ble about the supe­rio­rity of desic­ca­ted thy­roid and how it’s chan­ged lives, NOT to feed dire nega­tive pre­dic­tions which only end up giving ideas we don’t want to give! You are most wel­come to join the Coa­li­tion above in addi­tion to other groups.

Good for patients and advo­ca­tes alike for put­ting more rea­son and fact in this situation. 

I’m also glad to see some stra­te­gic, pro-active behind-the-scenes work going on as a just-in-case line of acti­vism. That is the way it should have always been – a plan for action “just in case”, not dire pre­dic­tions and fear mon­ge­ring as if it all WAS going to happen.

We’ll get through this, folks. Here are options for thy­roid treat­ment in the mean­time. And if you want to talk to other patients, join our thy­roid patient Com­mu­nity Call this Fri­day. Details are found in the Sep­tem­ber 7^th blog post.