It happens often–someone will join a patient group, and right off the bat, you notice they are very defensive about certain subjects, know-it-all argumentative, condescendingly overbearing, and/or paranoid.
They may quickly fly off the handle. They might see implications in words that were never there. They can also be childish in their reactions, obsessive about certain topics or people, mistrustful of others, forgetful, combative, and/or jittery.
Even worse, combine someone with intelligence and a way with words along with all of the above, and you’ve got a royal pain in the butt.
And the worst part? Most have no idea how badly they are manifesting the above.
It’s called adrenal fatigue. It starts out with excessively high cortisol, then falls to low cortisol with a basket full of consequences when it comes to coping and interacting with life and people. i.e. those with adrenal fatigue are all the above and more. And it’s very very common among thyroid patients thanks to being left undiagnosed due to the lousy TSH lab test, or being put on T4 medications like Synthroid, Levoxyl, levothyroxine, etc. It’s also unfortunately common for many doctors to deny its existence or be clueless on how to treat it. So you can imagine the thrill when we hear of a few who are listening!
You can read about this condition here, as well as send others whom you suspect has this problem. Or, there are more details in Chapters 5 and 6 in the Stop the Thyroid Madness book, which you can order from the publishing company and have the book sent straight to them. There appear to be a huge body of thyroid patients with this condition–at least 50% or more–and it’s a topic that needs understanding and a condition that needs the right treatment.
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Janie will be on two radio shows this weekend, and these will be good to recommend to your family and friends of whom you think need to hear about desiccated thyroid and better treatment strategies:
- SATURDAY: Michigan Talk Network’s “Health and Wellness Show” by Dr. John Wycoff, D.O., an educational & patient interactive call radio show. Two hours long. Live steam here: http://www.wjimam.com/plus more information here: http://www.michigantalknetwork.com/dr%20wycoff/new/hws_home.html Time: 6 am Pacific, 7 am Mountain (groan), 8 am Central and 9 am Eastern. Dr. Wycoff and I will talk about problems with thyroid treatment, desiccated thyroid and better treatment strategies
- SUNDAY: Just Ask Nish, a new TRN nationally syndicated radio show heard on 53 stations in 1400 cities. Time: 10am Pacific, 11 am Mountain, 12 noon Central and 1 pm Eastern http://ask-nish.com/radio_justasknish.php The host is Nisha Jackson, N.D. who has 18 years of experience in research and practice, as well as multiple T.V. appearances, motivational speaking, and two other radio shows (although this is her largest). I’ll be talking about thyroid issues and well as better treatment strategies.
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debbie said:
Jun 09, 10 at 12:23 amJamie,
I am truely afraid I had what I think was DVT…I also a few days later had a sore spot on my head and I believe this occured because of DVT…at first I told my husband I didn’t know why my head hurt I didn’t remember hitting it. am I dying I am 47 years old.
(From Janie: Debbie, check with your doctor about it. He or she will help you. )
Andrea said:
Jun 09, 10 at 4:11 amI have adrenal fatigue and also LOW male hormone levels. Low male hormone in females can make one more prone to stress and anxiety here as well as making it hell to lose the weight. Thanks Janie for the new doctor.
Elenor said:
Jun 09, 10 at 2:16 pmOh Janie! Thank you so much! Talk about PERFECT timing. My beloved husband and I just half-an-hour ago finished a fraught discussion about my “exaggerated” (or are they realistic?) fear (of pickpockets in Barcelona, where we’re going next year). Plus, when I tried to address this with him, he got angry because I was sounding like “the universal expert,” which really offends him! We worked it out, and figured out what bothered him and how I can broach subjects without the combativeness (the word he used too!) I exhibited. And then your entry showed up in my box!
I cannot tell you what a total HERO you are to me! (I have treated my adrenals successfully a couple years ago; have been on Armour, then Erfa for about 5 years under your excellent info, and am now on T3-only trying to kick out the rT3… (So, um, back to adrenal support beyond a couple of Isocort in the morning…)
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
Elenor
L. Morgan said:
Jun 10, 10 at 12:17 pmSometimes I wonder if thyroid treatment will ever get the same type of research and options as Diabetes.
Wouldn’t it be nice if we could have the option of receiving a shot (pending it was safe and effective)instead of having to ingest pills, it would be nice to have a way to test our Thyroid hormone levels and related levels at home, etc.
Hopefully, one day there will be even more options…
Lisa Parlee-Carr said:
Jun 15, 10 at 9:25 amThis is my mother. After my own diagnoses of Hashi’s she was tested and is being treated with 25mg, Levoxyl of course. She still has symptoms and always has had symptoms of Adrenal fatigue. Her TSH is normal but she just won’t listen to me. I am as of today being switched to Armour after fighting, begging and trying to educate 5 different doctors who all just kept sending me to a psychiatrist. I am hoping and praying for a miracle and hope that after that miracle my mother will finally listen to me.
(From Janie: if you get on Armour, you’ll need to either chew it up before swallowing, or mortar and pestle it and add a touch of sugar or honey. Without doing either, the cellulose in it prevents thyroid hormones from being absorbed. I hope your mom will listen to you.)
Jamie Rose said:
Jun 24, 10 at 6:30 pmHello Janie, I would like to see some more info for those of us with secondary adrenal insufficiency who are also have hyperactive thyroidism. There is much out there for the hypos, but not much for the hypers. I would really like to see some info about helping with extremely slow metabolism too. I just can’t get this weight off, which I suspect is coming from the low adrenal functioning.
Linda said:
Aug 29, 10 at 11:45 pmJanie, how risky for someone with “borderline” high glucose to use HC for adrenals? My last fasting glucose was 127, Dr was a bit concerned about this (I have Hashi’s) Dr rx’d HC for adrenals (did 4xday saliva test, tanked) and said keep an eye on “diabetic symptoms” such as excessive thirst etc. Just don’t want to spin myself off into diabetes land with this even though I need it, can’t increase thyroid w/out it, tried, went hyPER and it was awful, backed way down on NT. I guess the other question would be, would high glucose be reversible after coming off HC if it really started causing big problems? Concerned about all of this. Thanks in advance!
From Janie: I would recommend joining NTH Adrenals for feedback with your question: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/talk-to-others )