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Is Cellulose the real problem in desiccated thyroid meds for many?

celluloseWhen Forest Labs refor­mu­la­ted Armour ear­lier this year, they sta­ted they inc­rea­sed the filler Mic­rocrys­ta­lline Cellu­lose, and dec­rea­sed the Suc­rose (sugar). The tablets became impos­si­ble to do sublin­gually, and you have to won­der why they would change a qua­lity that patients prai­sed so hea­vily.  Posi­tive opi­nion among patients for Forest Labs slip­ped seve­ral notches.

But the real cuckoo’s nest for many thy­roid patients, who knew firsthand the life-changing bene­fits of natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid, was a mad­de­ning return of serious hypo symp­toms on the new Armour and sub­se­quent new stress on their adre­nals, sooner…or later! You can read seve­ral horror sto­ries in the com­ments of the post below, or go here.

So patients tur­ned to other alter­na­ti­ves: Natu­reth­roid and Westh­roid by RLC Labs…then when the desic­ca­ted thy­roid shor­ta­ges hit in the Fall of 2009, Erfa’s Thy­roid, Com­poun­ded desic­ca­ted thy­roid, and others. And there have been pro­blems for some patients on most everything they switched to.  The LEAST pro­ble­ma­tic has been Erfa’s Thy­roid, and the most pro­ble­ma­tic was Compounded.

So what has been the com­mon thread in the most pro­ble­ma­tic desic­ca­ted thy­roid pro­ducts? CELLULOSE, a plant fiber, and more com­monly known by the trade name Avi­cel. And what does fiber do in your sto­mach? Inhi­bits absorp­tion. Armour’s cellu­lose was rai­sed, and bamm…problems.  Com­poun­ded desic­ca­ted thy­roid, with cellu­lose as a filler, has been pro­ble­ma­tic for many patients with a return of hypo symp­toms,  espe­cially if  it was Methyl Cellu­lose, a lar­ger par­ticle size pro­duct. But some have even had pro­blems with com­poun­ded con­tai­ning Mic­rocrys­ta­lline Cellu­lose, the sma­ller cellu­lar pro­duct. And a cer­tain body of patients even had pro­blems with Natu­reth­roid before it became scarce. And Natu­reth­roid uses cellu­lose as a filler.

Is this pro­blem true with T3-only pro­ducts? Yup. Patients have noted that gene­ric T3 is far less effec­tive than the brand name Cyto­mel (both Liothy­ro­nine Sodium)  And what filler it up to 70% in the gene­ric T3?  CELLULOSE.  See the per­cen­ta­ges here for Paddock’s gene­ric T3.

Why have less pro­blems been repor­ted with Erfa’s Thy­roid? Perhaps because it has no cellu­lose as a filler! See this list of ingre­dients, which STTM has been wor­king on lovingly for a few years.

What does lite­ra­ture say about the use of Cellu­lose as a filler in medi­ca­tions? Plenty. Cellu­lose is from wood. Wood is fiber. And fiber in your gut affects absorp­tion. From http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/fiber-000303.htm we get this:

* Die­tary fiber has been repor­ted to lower the blood levels and effec­ti­ve­ness of tricyc­lic anti­de­pres­sant medications…Reduced die­tary fiber intake inc­rea­sed the blood levels and impro­ved symp­toms in these patients.

* While fiber sup­ple­ments may help to regu­late blood sugar levels, they may also inter­fere with the absorp­tion of anti-diabetic medications.…Therefore, fiber sup­ple­ments should not be taken at the same time as these medications.

* Taking solu­ble fiber such as psy­llium with car­ba­ma­ze­pine (Tegre­tol), a medi­ca­tion used to treat sei­zure disor­ders, may dec­rease the absorp­tion and effec­ti­ve­ness of carbamazepine.

* Fiber in the form of pec­tin (from fruit) and oat bran repor­tedly redu­ces the body’s abi­lity to absorb cholesterol-lowering medi­ca­tions known as “sta­tins,”… and could lead to dec­rea­sed effec­ti­ve­ness of these medications.

* Fiber sup­ple­ments may reduce the body’s abi­lity to absorb digo­xin (Lano­xin), a medi­ca­tion used to regu­late heart function.

* Cli­ni­cal reports sug­gest that psy­llium or other solu­ble fibers may lower lithium levels in the blood, redu­cing the effec­ti­ve­ness of this medication.

* In one cli­ni­cal study, the fiber sup­ple­ment guar gum redu­ced blood levels of penicillin.

Cellu­lose can clearly be a pro­blem, espe­cially when it’s ratio is too high as com­pa­red to the desic­ca­ted thy­roid. So what can you do?

If you are using a com­poun­ded medi­ca­tion, strongly request pow­de­red aci­dophi­les, also spe­lled aci­dophi­lus, as your filler.  One gal sta­tes her com­poun­ding phar­macy uses pow­de­red Gin­ger (but beware of too much Gin­ger if you have Mitral Valve Pro­lapse. It can cause palps if you take too much – my expe­rience).  See what other fillers your com­poun­der can offer.

Another pos­si­bi­lity is Cellu­lase, an enzyme which helps the split­ting and break­down of cellu­lose, and which was pro­po­sed to me by Natu­ro­pathic stu­dent Stepha­nie Buist. Goo­gle “cellu­lase” and find sup­ple­ments that con­tain it.  If it looks pro­mi­sing to you, I’ll be curious to read your expe­rience with swa­llo­wing a cellu­lase sup­ple­ment, then swa­llo­wing your pro­ble­ma­tic desic­ca­ted thyroid.

And lea­ning towards Erfa’s Thy­roid can be a plus.

Have other ideas or com­ments about Cellu­lose in our desic­ca­ted thy­roid? Use the COMMENT func­tion below and let’s talk!


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How are YOU doing with the current desiccated thyroid shortages?

Pills Spilled Shortages

(This post gar­ne­red a lot of atten­tion, up to FIFTY com­ments just a few hours after it went up. Peo­ple are very inte­res­ted in sha­ring their expe­rien­ces in coping with the shor­ta­ges! See below and add your own.)

This year will go down in his­tory as shoc­kingly mise­ra­ble for enligh­te­ned thy­roid patients on natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid.

First came a refor­mu­la­tion in the most popu­lar brand – Armour by Forest Labs. Patients world­wide in groups and forums repor­ted a serious return of their hypothy­roid symp­toms on this pro­duct. A huge disappointment.

Second came the pro­duc­tion shut­down of the two gene­ric makers of desic­ca­ted thy­roid: Time Caps Labs and Major Phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals. It’s the first step in the FDA’s com­pliance plan to corral all grandfathered-in drugs (drugs already in exis­tence when the the FDA was crea­ted in 1938) and make them each prove the effi­cacy and safety of their medi­ca­tion via very expen­sive cli­ni­cal trials.  i.e. over 110 years of safe and effec­tive use of desic­ca­ted thy­roid is not enough for the FDA?? We are still wai­ting to see the out­come of that plan with RLC  and Forest Labs. – the two who were actually in exis­tence before 1938.

Third came demand being grea­ter than supply and shor­ta­ges. Because of infor­ma­tive patient web­si­tes like Stop the Thy­roid Mad­ness,  Sheila’s TPA-UK, Lyn’s Thy­roi­dUK, Stephanie’s Natu­ral Thy­roid Choi­ces, some areas of about.com (and other good web­si­tes I don’t mean to miss here), plus many fine patient forums and groups,  patients found out why they had con­ti­nuing symp­toms on T4 thy­ro­xine, and demand for natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid grew exponentially.

STTM then crea­ted a list of options for all thy­roid patients until the shor­ta­ges resol­ved them­sel­ves, and also crea­ted CDT (Coa­li­tion for Desic­ca­ted Thy­roid) where patients could dis­cuss alter­na­ti­ves in a sup­por­tive and fac­tual atmosphere.

And we’ve seen some inte­res­ting expe­rien­ces and comments:

The new Armour: One grain tabs star­ted to appear on some phar­macy shel­ves the past month.  Other phar­ma­cies have still been wai­ting.  Many patients appear to have switched to other alter­na­ti­ves, though. One gal still on it feels she is fin­ding suc­cess by adding T3 to the amount of new Armour she is on.  Time will tell if patients can ever find suc­cess with the newly for­mu­la­ted Armour, and most feel it’s a huge loss.

Natu­reth­roid and Westh­roid: Patients repor­ting on their switch to either of RLC Lab’s two iden­ti­cal pro­ducts report doing well, having to raise it slightly or lower it slightly, or just not liking them at all. Others have had a hard time fin­ding it on their phar­macy shel­ves, but have been seeing some appear in the last few weeks.

Erfa’s Thy­roid from Canada: When it became clear that the FDA was allo­wing this exce­llent pro­duct to be ship­ped to patients, many switched and had their presc­rip­tions faxed to a Cana­dian phar­macy. Pri­ces at many of those phar­macy web­si­tes were dou­bled after presc­rip­tions star­ted to come in from the US. Most patient who stuck with it seem to love it, repor­ting you can do it sublin­gually, as well. A few haven’t been impres­sed, but were fin­ding their for­mer suc­cess by rai­sing it.

Com­poun­ded desic­ca­ted thy­roid: In spite of being a more expen­sive option, some patients found suc­cess with this. Others lear­ned they pre­fe­rred the filler to be Aci­dophi­les.  If not the lat­ter, Mic­rocrys­ta­lline Cellu­lose was pre­fe­rred over Methyl Cellu­lose – the lat­ter which appea­red to les­sen the effec­ti­ve­ness of the com­poun­ded thyroid.

Synthe­tic T4 and Synthe­tic T3: some patients switched back to the synthe­tic com­bi­na­tion, but many report that it hasn’t been as effec­tive as desic­ca­ted thy­roid was.

Other options: Patients moved to OTC pro­ducts like Nutri-Meds, etc, which can be much wea­ker. Others sought desic­ca­ted thy­roid from other coun­tries and have found success.

So I’d like to hear from all of you.   Did you go back to synthe­tic T4?  What desic­ca­ted thy­roid did you switch to? What wor­ked and why? What didn’t work for you and why?  What pro­duct do you hope to switch to once you run out of your current meds?


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FDA’s Safe Use Initiative – think they will listen to our cries about T4-only meds?

EarplugsAs a thy­roid patient who was pro­foundly har­med by the use of Synth­roid and Levoxyl in the treat­ment of my hypothy­roi­dism, and as an acti­vist who sees this same harm­ful truth with poten­tially millions of other patients, I find this recent news interesting.

But you gotta won­der if they will be wea­ring noise reduc­tion head­sets and ear plugs…or not…when it comes to the scan­dal of synthe­tic T4-only medi­ca­tions.  Will they?

Just today, the U.S. Depart­ment of Health and Human Ser­vi­ces and the Food and Drug Admi­nis­tra­tion (FDA) announ­ced the Safe Use Ini­tia­tive, “a pro­gram aimed at redu­cing the like­lihood of pre­ven­ta­ble harm from medi­ca­tion use”.

Sta­te­ments I glea­ned from this ini­tia­tive include:

1. Today, tens of millions of peo­ple in the Uni­ted Sta­tes depend on presc­rip­tion and over‐the‐counter (OTC) medi­ca­tions to sus­tain their health — as many as 3 billion presc­rip­tions are writ­ten annually. Too many peo­ple, howe­ver, suf­fer unne­ces­sary inju­ries, even death, as a result of pre­ven­ta­ble medi­ca­tion errors or misuse.

2. Although FDA and many other sta­kehol­ders have been wor­king to improve how the health­care sys­tem mana­ges medi­ca­tion risks in the Uni­ted Sta­tes, it is widely recog­ni­zed that more needs to be done to pro­tect the public from pre­ven­ta­ble harm from medi­ca­tion use.

3. Medi­ca­tions offer great bene­fit, but they come with risks. Whe­ne­ver medi­ca­tions are not used opti­mally, risks of harm can inc­rease significantly.

4. FDA pro­po­ses to iden­tify, using a trans­pa­rent and colla­bo­ra­tive pro­cess, spe­ci­fic can­di­date cases (e.g., drugs, drug clas­ses, and/or the­ra­peu­tic situa­tions) that are asso­cia­ted with sig­ni­fi­cant amounts of pre­ven­ta­ble harm.

This ini­tia­tive is actually far broa­der than what I glea­ned above, and also invol­ves self-abuse, expo­sure of dan­ge­rous medi­ca­tions to chil­dren, dire side effects, and more. Five areas are also spe­ci­fi­cally tar­ge­ted:  Con­su­mer medi­ca­tion infor­ma­tion (CMI), Medi­ca­tion dosing devi­ces, Ace­ta­mi­nophen toxi­city, Alcohol-based sur­gi­cal preps, and Medi­ca­tions in vials. You can read more in the fact sheet.

But if the FDA is going to do their job with this ini­tia­tive, or do their job ove­rall, you have to won­der if they will lis­ten to and inc­lude the pro­blems asso­cia­ted with being trea­ted with a T4-only medi­ca­tion as expe­rien­ced by millions of patients world­wide. Con­ti­nuing symp­toms of hypothy­roi­dism while on this ina­de­quate treat­ment is wides­pread and dama­ging for many, cau­sing hands reaching deep in poc­kets to pay for nume­rous doc­tors appoint­ments, besi­des anti­de­pres­sants, anti-anxiety meds, blood pres­sure meds, sta­tins, cor­ti­sol meds for adre­nal fati­gue, and other medi­ca­tions which we would have never nee­ded, and would have been pre­ven­ta­ble, if we had been on natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid like Natu­reth­roid or Westh­roid in the first place.

Many patients on thy­ro­xine, T4-only medi­ca­tions will also report actual hos­pi­tal visits due to the side effects of a poor treatment.

In other words, thy­ro­xine aka levothy­ro­xine aka T4 treat­ment has been an unsafe and harm­ful treat­ment, cau­sing millions to suf­fer unne­ces­sary inju­ries and side effects for over 50 years of its use­less and popu­lar use.  It fits the Safe Use Ini­tia­tive. Or at the very least, it calls for the FDA to lis­ten to patient expe­rience with this lousy choice to treat hypothy­roi­dism.

Lis­ten to us, FDA. Lis­ten and be wise.

P.S. See the blog post below about a gene­tic rea­son why so many do lousy on T4.


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Two topics: Let’s talk iodine, plus a UK lab will analyze Armour, says Sheila of TPA-UK!

iodine_atomI con­fess that I hated my Che­mistry class in high school, even if Mr. Bowen tried to make it inte­res­ting and favo­red the girls over the boys in class.  But lo and behold, one of those ele­ments on the Perio­dic Table ended up having a sig­ni­fi­cant role in all or our lives as thy­roid patients: iodine.

Iodine can be found in every inch your body, but is espe­cially pre­va­lent in your thy­roid, which makes it an inte­res­ting ele­ment for those of us with thy­roid disease.  The active thy­roid hor­mone T3 (triio­dothy­ro­nine) is made up of three iodine mole­cu­les, and the sto­rage hor­mone T4 (thy­ro­xine) has four iodine mole­cu­les. In fact, without pro­per amounts of iodine, your thy­roid wouldn’t even func­tion well.

An opti­mal amount of iodine has also been shown to improve breast health, pro­vide can­cer pro­tec­tion, remove toxins like Bro­mide, fluo­ride, mer­cury etc…and in some cases, has hel­ped thy­roid patients either lower their dose, or even get off thy­roid treat­ment. Thy­roid patient Diana tells of get­ting off thy­roid treat­ment due to iodine on the Sto­ries of Others page.

***This Thurs­day eve­ning on the Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on TalkShoe, we’ll have guest Stepha­nie Buist, owner of the Yahoo group Iodine and a 9-year thy­roid can­cer sur­vi­vor who strongly feels iodine has been a huge fac­tor.   We’ll explore how much iodine a per­son needs, the loa­ding loa­ding test, the best sour­ces of iodine sup­ple­men­ta­tion, whether you need iodine, as well as con­tro­ver­sies with iodine use, inc­lu­ding Hashi­mo­tos disease or bad reac­tions.  Times for the call are 6 pm Paci­fic, 7 pm Moun­tain, 8 pm Cen­tral and 9 pm Eas­tern. You can lis­ten right on your com­pu­ter, or call to talk directly to Stepha­nie and Janie. Join us!

*******************

ArmourtabletsUGH-1Sheila Tur­ner of TPA-UK  (Thy­roid Patient Advocacy-UK www.tpa-uk.org.uk) is star­ting the ball rolling on something very inte­res­ting:  they have con­tac­ted a lab in the UK who will do a qua­li­ta­tive analy­sis of the old Armour vs. the new refor­mu­la­ted Armour to get a break­down of the ingre­dients, and poten­tially give us an idea WHAT is cau­sing thy­roid patients to have a return of their hypothy­roid symp­toms since Forest refor­mu­la­ted Armour in 2009.

Howe­ver, says Sheila, this will cost in the region of £600 to £700 (appro­xi­ma­tely $1100).  Says Sheila, “If there are enough patients who are willing and able to help raise the fun­ding requi­red by giving wha­te­ver we can afford, we could finally get the ans­wer as to which chan­ges have been made in the new for­mula and whether this inc­lu­des chan­ges in the active (as some have sug­ges­ted) and the inac­tive ingre­dients and put this baby to rest once and for all.”

You can con­tact Sheila at the above web­site and make a pledge.  As I write this, they have already have £100 pledged.

UPDATE: Stepha­nie above has agree to be the ‘Pledge and Money Collec­tor’ for the lab work nee­ded to analyze the old vs new Armour . She can be con­tac­ted at ladybugsandbees@sbcglobal.net


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  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
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FDA is not requiring form when you order Erfa’s Thyroid

CloudSilverLiningSome­ti­mes there is a sil­ver lining with the storm cloud of bac­kor­de­red US desic­ca­ted thyroid.

Erfa, the makers of the Cana­dian ver­sion of natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid, simply called “Thy­roid”, has recently announ­ced that the FDA is not requi­ring the exten­sive FDA Form 1572 from US citi­zens and their doc­tors when they fill their presc­rip­tions from Erfa directly. i.e. it’s now a lot easier to get your presc­rip­tion filled directly from them.

http://www.erfa-sa.com/thyroid_usa.htm

And those who have star­ted to use Erfa’s Thy­roid report being quite plea­sed. A cherry on top is that Thy­roid has that old sweet taste we used to all like with the old Armour, and it can be done sublin­gually as well! You can see the ingre­dients here.

Also, I am con­ti­nuing to get emails from patients that both Armour and Natu­reth­roid is star­ting to appear on phar­macy shel­ves, even if in small quan­ti­ties.  I’m per­so­nally not too exci­ted about Armour reap­pea­ring if Forest con­ti­nues to make the refor­mu­la­ted ver­sion. Just too many patients repor­ting a return of hypo symp­toms, even when they raise it, plus new symp­toms of under­treat­ment and/or cha­llen­ged adre­nals thanks to the refor­mu­la­ted ver­sion. Sad. Oh how we will all miss the old Armour.

In the mean­time, here are options for thy­roid treat­ment we all have until we see a good return of desic­ca­ted thy­roid, inc­lu­ding Natu­reth­roid and Westh­roid. They are all far, far bet­ter than being on T4 alone like Synth­roid, Levoxyl, levothy­ro­xine, et al. You’ll also note com­poun­ded thy­roid, which can be a good option, and you can read about on a recent blog post.  Aus­tra­lians hap­pily use com­poun­ded in their own country. Any option you and your doc­tor choose may mean a read­just­ment by your body, by the way.

Want to talk to other patients on how they are dea­ling with the shor­ta­ges? Join the Coa­li­tion for Desic­ca­ted Thy­roid.  Or if you simply need patient feed­back about your hypothy­roi­dism, go to the Talk to Others page.  Remem­ber that no patient group is meant to be a subs­ti­tute for your rela­tionship with your doctor.

**The next Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call will be held Thurs­day Oct. 8th on TalkShoe, and our topic will be iodine and your thy­roid with patient expert Stepha­nie Buist. Come join us and lis­ten right on your com­pu­ter, or you can also talk live to Stepha­nie or Janie with your questions.


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.
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