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The dark ages in the United Kingdom – don’t think it might not happen where YOU live!

I have lived in the Uni­ted Sta­tes my entire life.

And there are other coun­tries I have felt were simi­lar to my own as far as being modern, forward-thinking, and inte­lli­gent. The Uni­ted King­dom is one.

But there is one area in the UK that is as close to the Dark Ages as it gets: the treat­ment of all forms and degrees of hypothyroidism.

Because of the Bri­tish Thy­roid Asso­cia­tion (BTA) and the Royal College of Phy­si­cians (RCP) ‘gui­dance’ on the Diag­no­sis and Mana­ge­ment of Pri­mary Hypothy­roi­dism, most UK doc­tors refuse to presc­ribe any form of  T3, whether adding synthe­tic T3 to one’s T4, or using natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid, either because they have fallen in line like ducks in a row, or they fear for their job.

Why? Because “overwhel­ming evi­dence sup­ports the use of Thy­ro­xine (T4) alone in the treat­ment of hypothy­roi­dism, and we do not recom­mend the presc­ri­bing of addi­tio­nal Triio­dothy­ro­nine (T3) in any pre­sently avai­la­ble for­mu­la­tion, inc­lu­ding natu­ral thy­roid extract, as it is incon­sis­tent with nor­mal phy­sio­logy, has not been scien­ti­fi­cally pro­ven to be of any bene­fit to patients, and may be harmful”.

Any­body puking yet??

And, says thy­roid patient advo­cate Sheila Tur­ner of TPA-UK, “never has the RCP, BTA  pro­du­ced any of the ‘overwhel­ming evi­dence’ they claim as sup­por­ting the use of T4-only, even though they have been asked to do so on nume­rous occa­sions. Overwhel­ming evi­dence sup­ports the use of synthe­tic T4/T3 and natu­ral thy­roid extract.”

And don’t think it won’t hap­pen where YOU live. Stu­pi­dity can abound.

What to do about it?? Ans­wer a short ques­tion­naire, crea­ted by Sheila and TPA-UK, which is for those with symp­toms of hypothy­roi­dism when trea­ted with T4-only, who then tried a T3 thy­roid hor­mone pro­duct with suc­cess. “The results of this ques­tion­naire will ena­ble us to create the first ‘World-wide Regis­ter of Coun­te­re­xam­ples to Levothy­ro­xine (T4) — only the­rapy’”, unders­co­res Sheila.The objec­tive is to draw atten­tion to the dire need for an urgent re-examination of the exis­ting pro­to­col for the diag­no­sis and mana­ge­ment of the symp­toms of hypothyroidism.”

Don’t wait until stu­pi­dity and narrow-mindedness comes to where you live, as it also has in the country of Colum­bia, where Cyno­mel (T3) was reti­red more than 10 years now.  Give this a voice NOW to head it off at the pass.

P.S. While you are at it, sign up with Dr. Skinner’s World Thy­roid Regis­ter.

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The Con­tact Me page on STTM hasn’t been wor­king for weeks. And I didn’t know it. :(  But it’s fixed now.  Remem­ber: it’s not to ask ques­tions about your per­so­nal treat­ment. Those need to go here.

The STTM book helps in your doctor’s office. Have brain fog? Many patients are telling me they take the book right in the office, book­mar­ked. I can’t pro­mise how your doc­tor will res­pond, but it’s been posi­tive for most when a book is refe­rred to right in front of the doc. I hope it helps you, too.  P.S. Only books orde­red directly from the publishing com­pany get a book­mark of upda­ted info. That’s also true if you have a book sent to a rela­tive or friend.



  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.

Should thyroid patients avoid self-treatment at all costs??

(Note: this is a long post, but will be worth every penny if you read it all!)

When STTM first put out its shin­gle in Decem­ber of 2005 (with most of what you see today going up in ’06 and ’07 with con­ti­nual addi­tions),  my goal with this site was sim­ple: to edu­cate thy­roid patients.

And as I saw it, by edu­ca­ting patients on what we had been lear­ning, patients could in turn, take that infor­ma­tion into their doc­tors offi­ces and push for change. And it’s been wor­king, slowly. We now have more doc­tors than ever before who know about desic­ca­ted thy­roid and are willing to presc­ribe it, even if they are the mino­rity. STTM has a page on how to try fin­ding one of those good docs.

But as I wrote about this fact in my pre­vious post, cer­tain patients can still find them­sel­ves frus­tra­ted, angry and sick because of doc­tors. It’s not a pretty pic­ture for some.

I am lucky, as I’ve always mana­ged to have a fair doc­tor to work with, without com­pli­ca­ted issues. But a lot of patients aren’t as lucky.  They either can’t find a doc­tor to treat them correctly after trying repea­tedly, or they simply can’t afford to keep dri­ving to find a good doc (with no pro­mi­ses that they will get the good doc they des­pe­ra­tely need any­way). As a result, many thy­roid patients report being for­ced to self-treat.

Even though STTM was never crea­ted as a self-treatment site, I am aware that some patients use it that way.  And I can never con­demn them. Gran­ted, a few who make their own choice to self-treat can run into pro­blems, most espe­cially from undis­co­ve­red or undiag­no­sed low ferri­tin or low cor­ti­sol. But it’s a choice they seem to make out of desperation.

The follo­wing  post is by  Guest Blog pos­ter and UK’s thy­roid patient advo­cate Sheila Tur­ner of TPA-UK.  These are her cou­ra­geous thoughts con­cer­ning self-treatment, and her angst against anyone who tells patients not to do so.  Ove­rall, UK patients have a very tough situa­tion in the UK with doc­tors, but so do the vast majo­rity of patients around the world, as well as US patients. See what you think…

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It’s not uncom­mon to be told as a suf­fe­ring and debi­li­ta­ted thy­roid patient to never self-diagnose, never self-treat, never self-monitor.

And in an ideal world, we could take those admo­ni­tions on. But we are not living in an ideal world.

You might as well tell every­body with ill health to put up with wha­te­ver they are suf­fe­ring and leave their health in the safe hands of our ‘won­der­ful’ doc­tors whom we can trust impli­citly.  Sadly, many doc­tors have little (or no) edu­ca­tion in the wor­kings of the thy­roid system.

Or, you might just try tou­ring the country until you find one who will help. Well, if you have the energy and the money to do that, it could take a heck of a long time before fin­ding such a good doc­tor —  indeed, IF you ever find such a doctor.

I run a very suc­cess­ful Inter­net Thy­roid Sup­port group, plus web site for thy­roid disease, and I have seen at first hand (and expe­rien­ced it myself) the night­mare of having to put up with the terri­ble suf­fe­ring cau­sed by Doctors.

In the UK, for exam­ple, it is orga­ni­za­tions such as the Royal College of Phy­si­cians and the Bri­tish Thy­roid Asso­cia­tion who have terri­fied NHS doc­tors so much that they now no lon­ger presc­ribe any T3 hor­mone con­tai­ning pro­ducts, neither natu­ral nor synthe­tic, for fear of being repor­ted to the GMC  regu­la­tory body with the threat of losing their career and livelihood.

One com­ment I hear from those who con­demn self-treatment is the pro­blem of over-medicating. In rea­lity, it is the rec­kless prohi­bi­tion of all T3-containing drugs that cau­ses car­diac arrhyth­mia and risk of  sud­den death -  which would amount to at least mans­laugh­ter, and might even cons­ti­tute mur­der if the out­come is strictly fore­seea­ble - which it is. It is NOT patients who should be cri­ti­ci­zed. They have been dri­ven to buying presc­rip­tion medi­ci­nes for thy­roid and adre­nal insuf­fi­ciency. Cri­ti­ci­zing self-treatment is an outra­geous claim and one that the medi­cal regu­la­tors would no doubt be deligh­ted to hear. Seems that not only are doc­tors beco­ming sorely afraid of the Regu­la­tors, those who con­demn self-treatment are also falling into the same trap.

The “basic pre­mise” that under­lies my own pur­pose and advo­cacy is to help those being left to suf­fer because the medi­cal regu­la­tors and govern­ment are refu­sing to give a pro­per diag­no­sis — and for those who do get a diag­no­sis, giving them levothy­ro­xine sodium-only as a thy­roid hor­mone replacement.

Whe­ne­ver a new mem­ber comes to TPA, we encou­rage them to read, read and read again and to look at the infor­ma­tion in our FILES sec­tion which is there for all to see. We tell them about the asso­cia­ted con­di­tions that go along with being hypothy­roid such as low adre­nal reserve, sys­te­mic can­di­dia­sis, mer­cury poi­so­ning and ask them to request blood tests from their doc­tor to see if their levels are low in the refe­rence range for ferri­tin, vita­min B12, vita­min D3, mag­ne­sium, folate, cop­per and zinc. We have infor­ma­tion on the rea­sons they need to check these and if any of these are a pro­blem, make sure they are aware of just how essen­tial it is that they eli­mi­nate these con­di­tions, one by one, before star­ting thy­roid hor­mone repla­ce­ment – such con­di­tions are NOT auto­ma­ti­cally chec­ked by NHS doc­tors – and they put their patients at great risk by auto­ma­ti­cally presc­ri­bing levothyroxine.

We all know of the serious rami­fi­ca­tions for those patients who are not being given a correct diag­no­sis or treat­ment. Howe­ver, it is the endoc­ri­no­lo­gists and medi­cal regu­la­tors who are guilty of cau­sing much of the unne­ces­sary suf­fe­ring, not those patients who are dri­ven to self diag­nose, self treat and self moni­tor, as those who cri­ti­cize self-treatment would have us believe.

Mains­tream doc­tors do not appear to be even aware of the many com­mon and often undiag­no­sed symp­toms and dan­ge­rous con­se­quen­ces of low thy­roid. These inc­lude: serious men­tal pro­blems, sei­zu­res, heart disease, dia­be­tes inc­lu­ding mis­diag­no­sis and com­pli­ca­tions, cons­ti­pa­tion resul­ting in colon can­cer, all female pro­blems (due to high amounts of dan­ge­rous forms of oes­tro­gen), inc­lu­ding: tumours, fibroids, ova­rian cysts, PMS, endo­me­trio­sis, breast can­cer, mis­ca­rriage, heavy periods and cramps, blad­der pro­blems lea­ding to infec­tions, anae­mia, ele­va­ted CPK, ele­va­ted crea­ti­nine, ele­va­ted tran­sa­mi­na­ses, hyper­cap­nia, hyper­li­pi­de­mia, hypogly­ce­mia, hypo­na­tre­mia, hypo­xia, leu­ko­pe­nia, res­pi­ra­tory aci­do­sis and others.…

If suf­fe­rers of the symp­toms are NOT get­ting a pro­per diag­no­sis and the thy­roid hor­mone repla­ce­ment that would give them back their life and health through mains­tream doc­tors, how on earth would you recom­mend they do this, apart from scou­ring the country to find a doc­tor elsewhere who would help them, or recom­men­ding they get enough money together to see a pri­vate thy­roid spe­cia­list. Do you REALLY have such com­plete faith in the medi­cal pro­fes­sion to know that we should ALL leave our thy­roid health in their hands, sit back and do nothing – and pro­bably just wait to die? How can you recom­mend that they do NOT buy presc­rip­tion medi­ca­tions and should not self-medicate, self treat or self moni­tor when there is NO other option left open to them.

If those who cri­ti­cize self-treatment have per­so­nally heard from “DOZENS” of peo­ple who have follo­wed the “inc­rease my own dose of natu­ral thy­roid” self medi­ca­tion approach, then yes, something is seriously wrong with the ‘teachings’ or advo­cacy of such groups. Edu­ca­tion should be encou­ra­ged by all, and if mem­bers do not unders­tand the rea­sons why they need to take great care, such expla­na­tions should be given in such a way that they understand.

I rarely hear of mem­bers ending up in Emer­gency Rooms batt­ling poten­tially fatal heart arrhythmia’s, atrial fibri­lla­tion, and/or ending up in worse health than before, inc­lu­ding long-term and per­ma­nent heart damage through self-treatment. I have heard of many NHS patients being admit­ted to A and E, who had been trea­ted (or not) by mains­tream doc­tors who refu­sed them the correct the­rapy their symp­toms needed.

In good cons­cience, I do recom­mend that thy­roid patients self-diagnose, self-medicate and self-treat if they are being left to suf­fer, because orga­ni­za­tions such as the RCP, BTA TSH refe­rence range is so huge that they will never go outside of it. This refe­rence range is 0.5 to 10.0 in the UK – pro­bably the widest in the world. Then, we have to put up with the fact that the only thy­roid func­tion test that will be done is the TSH –  and doc­tors will not test Free T4 in a lot of cases, never mind free T3 level. Also, NHS Patho­logy labs refuse to test free T3 even if the doc­tor has spe­ci­fi­cally reques­ted it. So, many of us will NEVER get a pro­per diag­no­sis – being left to suf­fer their unne­ces­sary symp­toms for years and become wheelchair/bed bound in many cases, having to leave paid employment.

Such patients are told they have a ‘func­tio­nal soma­to­form disor­der’ when their TFT’s are nor­mal, when they con­ti­nue to com­plain of symp­toms – or –  those who are lucky enough to get a diag­no­sis, who are trea­ted with levothy­ro­xine only yet still com­plain of debi­li­ta­ting symp­toms are told also “you have a func­tio­nal soma­to­form disor­der” or “your symp­toms are non-specific” .

What mains­tream doc­tors do not recog­nize is that thy­roid func­tion tests ONLY test the amount of thy­roid hor­mone being sec­re­ted by the thy­roid gland.  TFT’s (more correctly should be called Thy­roid GLAND func­tion tests”, do not test to show whether there is periphe­ral resis­tance to the thy­roid hor­mo­nes at the cellu­lar level. This is not due to a lack of thy­roid hor­mo­nes sec­re­ted by the gland. Blood tests do NOT detect Type 2 hypothy­roi­dism. Type 2 is usually inhe­ri­ted. Howe­ver, envi­ron­men­tal toxins may also cause or exa­cer­bate the pro­blem. The per­va­si­ve­ness of Type 2 has yet to be recog­ni­zed by mains­tream medi­cine, but already is in epi­de­mic pro­por­tions. I think many suf­fe­rers of the symp­toms of hypothy­roi­dism know very much more than their medi­cal prac­ti­tio­ners. I do know which road I would like to follow – that is to find an exce­llent doc­tor I could trust impli­citly, but sadly, the ONLY road many of us have to follow to get back nor­mal health is the one where we have to self medicate.

Please do NOT blame patients who are dri­ven to self diag­nose and medi­cate as being the rea­son why the US govern­ment, or any other govern­ment for that mat­ter, are now eli­mi­na­ting the avai­la­bi­lity of natu­ral thy­roid and synthe­tic T3. You are being suc­ked into belie­ving what they want you to believe.

Levothy­ro­xine is a synthe­tic medi­ca­tion that can be paten­ted, and has made billions of pounds for the Big Pharma and for the regu­la­tors of hypothy­roid gui­de­li­nes. Natu­ral thy­roid pro­ducts can­not be paten­ted. Should doc­tors presc­ribe either synthe­tic or natu­ral T3, the majo­rity of suf­fe­rers of the symp­toms of hypothy­roi­dism would regain their nor­mal health – Big Pharma would suffer.

You should perhaps read the book “Dirty Medi­cine” by Mar­tin J Wal­ker if you have not already read it. Those who cri­ti­cize self-treatment appear to be accu­sing all those suf­fe­ring symp­toms of hypothy­roi­dism who have been dri­ven to buying medi­ca­tions without presc­rip­tion and self trea­ting as making it worse for the rest of those suf­fe­ring. It is NOT them who are abu­sing T3. If a T3 hor­mone con­tai­ning pro­duct was pro­perly presc­ri­bed, there would be NO NEED FOR PATIENTS TO BE SELF MEDICATING.

Self medi­ca­ting, wha­te­ver drug we are taking, whether using a T3 hor­mone con­tai­ning pro­duct or not, is always risky and patients must be fully edu­ca­ted in its use. Howe­ver, self medi­ca­ting with any drug runs risks, but I would rather self medi­cate with the chance of get­ting my health back than lea­ving my health in the hands of totally incom­pe­tent doc­tors –  incom­pe­tent because the teachers in our medi­cal schools are incompetent.

For those who are being left to die, without the treat­ment that will make them well, do-it-yourself medi­ca­tion is the only option left open to them. Would you really deny them this?  Lea­ving patients without the thy­roid hor­mone they need is appa­lling and one of the rea­sons TPA is cam­paig­ning to bring about chan­ges in the diag­no­sing and treat­ment of the symp­toms of hypothyroidism.

It can be appre­cia­ted to say to work with the right doc­tor, but what do you recom­mend if patients can­not find the ‘right’ doc­tor?? Perhaps you should all come over here to the UK and help those suf­fe­rers in fin­ding the right solu­tion and offer to help them help to find a “good doctor”.

Sadly, there are never any solu­tions given or alter­na­tive to self diag­no­sing, self-treating or self-monitoring, other than to “find a good doc­tor”. This does not help Inter­net thy­roid sup­port forum members.

Sheila
http://www.tpa-uk.org.uk/


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.

Having lower TSH levels when taking thyroxine not unsafe, says recent research

I am amazed.

The Society for Endoc­ri­no­logy in the UK recently repor­ted that taking higher doses of thy­ro­xine (which will lower the TSH lab result) may be safer than has been pur­por­ted for decades.

And how low a TSH lab result did they find to be safe? As low as 0.04 – 0.4, the research found, is still safe enough to not cause an inc­rea­sed risk of  “heart disease, abnor­mal heart­beat pat­terns and bone frac­tu­res”, aka HYPERthy­roid symp­toms.

And those of us world­wide who know about the supe­rio­rity of natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid can also use these research results in our fight to be on enough desic­ca­ted thy­roid with TSH-obsessed doc­tors, who view research as the end-all to the truth rather than solid cli­ni­cal pre­sen­ta­tion, sadly. Because when we are on enough desic­ca­ted thy­roid to feel fabu­lous again with all symp­toms remo­ved (in the pre­sence of good cor­ti­sol levels, ade­quate ferri­tin, B12 and diges­tive issues), our TSH lab result is always low, aka sup­pres­sed, and without one iota of hyper symptoms.

Patients have expe­rien­tially known this truth about the lousy TSH lab test, without research, for years!

But here’s what’s mis­sing from their research:

  1. Those “safe, low levels of an “ink spot on a piece of paper” do not mean the 16,426 patients they follo­wed will be without nume­rous issues rela­ted to being on a sto­rage hor­mone.  i.e. the body is not meant to live for con­ver­sion alone! A healthy thy­roid will con­vert T4 to the active T3, but it will also pro­vide direct T3 in addi­tion to the T2, T1 and calcitonin…none of which a T4-only med pro­vi­des directly.
  2. Addi­tio­nally, the TSH lab test only reveals the action of a pitui­tary mes­sen­ger hor­mone called the Thy­roid Sti­mu­la­ting Hor­mone (TSH).  The lab test does NOT mea­sure whether your tis­sue is recei­ving enough thy­roid hor­mone, which is why so many patients on T4 end up with depres­sion, rising cho­les­te­rol, high blood pres­sure, low B12, low ferri­tin and many symp­toms, as well as adre­nal fati­gue thanks to the ina­de­quate treat­ment of T4.
  3. Rai­sing T4 often encou­ra­ges an excess pro­duc­tion of Reverse T3 over time, which will block cell recep­tors and inc­rease the very symp­toms the researcher state is avoi­ded, as well as far more hypothy­roid symptoms.

But on the posi­tive side: this is just one more research study that ends up being on our side in our quest in teaching our doc­tors about far bet­ter treat­ment pro­to­cols. I have also inc­lu­ded men­tion of this study on the follo­wing page on STTM, where I keep a ongoing list of  research which sup­ports what patients already know by their expe­rience and cli­ni­cal pre­sen­ta­tion:  http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/medical-research/


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.

How are YOU doing with the current desiccated thyroid shortages?

Pills Spilled Shortages

(This post gar­ne­red a lot of atten­tion, up to FIFTY com­ments just a few hours after it went up. Peo­ple are very inte­res­ted in sha­ring their expe­rien­ces in coping with the shor­ta­ges! See below and add your own.)

This year will go down in his­tory as shoc­kingly mise­ra­ble for enligh­te­ned thy­roid patients on natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid.

First came a refor­mu­la­tion in the most popu­lar brand – Armour by Forest Labs. Patients world­wide in groups and forums repor­ted a serious return of their hypothy­roid symp­toms on this pro­duct. A huge disappointment.

Second came the pro­duc­tion shut­down of the two gene­ric makers of desic­ca­ted thy­roid: Time Caps Labs and Major Phar­ma­ceu­ti­cals. It’s the first step in the FDA’s com­pliance plan to corral all grandfathered-in drugs (drugs already in exis­tence when the the FDA was crea­ted in 1938) and make them each prove the effi­cacy and safety of their medi­ca­tion via very expen­sive cli­ni­cal trials.  i.e. over 110 years of safe and effec­tive use of desic­ca­ted thy­roid is not enough for the FDA?? We are still wai­ting to see the out­come of that plan with RLC  and Forest Labs. – the two who were actually in exis­tence before 1938.

Third came demand being grea­ter than supply and shor­ta­ges. Because of infor­ma­tive patient web­si­tes like Stop the Thy­roid Mad­ness,  Sheila’s TPA-UK, Lyn’s Thy­roi­dUK, Stephanie’s Natu­ral Thy­roid Choi­ces, some areas of about.com (and other good web­si­tes I don’t mean to miss here), plus many fine patient forums and groups,  patients found out why they had con­ti­nuing symp­toms on T4 thy­ro­xine, and demand for natu­ral desic­ca­ted thy­roid grew exponentially.

STTM then crea­ted a list of options for all thy­roid patients until the shor­ta­ges resol­ved them­sel­ves, and also crea­ted CDT (Coa­li­tion for Desic­ca­ted Thy­roid) where patients could dis­cuss alter­na­ti­ves in a sup­por­tive and fac­tual atmosphere.

And we’ve seen some inte­res­ting expe­rien­ces and comments:

The new Armour: One grain tabs star­ted to appear on some phar­macy shel­ves the past month.  Other phar­ma­cies have still been wai­ting.  Many patients appear to have switched to other alter­na­ti­ves, though. One gal still on it feels she is fin­ding suc­cess by adding T3 to the amount of new Armour she is on.  Time will tell if patients can ever find suc­cess with the newly for­mu­la­ted Armour, and most feel it’s a huge loss.

Natu­reth­roid and Westh­roid: Patients repor­ting on their switch to either of RLC Lab’s two iden­ti­cal pro­ducts report doing well, having to raise it slightly or lower it slightly, or just not liking them at all. Others have had a hard time fin­ding it on their phar­macy shel­ves, but have been seeing some appear in the last few weeks.

Erfa’s Thy­roid from Canada: When it became clear that the FDA was allo­wing this exce­llent pro­duct to be ship­ped to patients, many switched and had their presc­rip­tions faxed to a Cana­dian phar­macy. Pri­ces at many of those phar­macy web­si­tes were dou­bled after presc­rip­tions star­ted to come in from the US. Most patient who stuck with it seem to love it, repor­ting you can do it sublin­gually, as well. A few haven’t been impres­sed, but were fin­ding their for­mer suc­cess by rai­sing it.

Com­poun­ded desic­ca­ted thy­roid: In spite of being a more expen­sive option, some patients found suc­cess with this. Others lear­ned they pre­fe­rred the filler to be Aci­dophi­les.  If not the lat­ter, Mic­rocrys­ta­lline Cellu­lose was pre­fe­rred over Methyl Cellu­lose – the lat­ter which appea­red to les­sen the effec­ti­ve­ness of the com­poun­ded thyroid.

Synthe­tic T4 and Synthe­tic T3: some patients switched back to the synthe­tic com­bi­na­tion, but many report that it hasn’t been as effec­tive as desic­ca­ted thy­roid was.

Other options: Patients moved to OTC pro­ducts like Nutri-Meds, etc, which can be much wea­ker. Others sought desic­ca­ted thy­roid from other coun­tries and have found success.

So I’d like to hear from all of you.   Did you go back to synthe­tic T4?  What desic­ca­ted thy­roid did you switch to? What wor­ked and why? What didn’t work for you and why?  What pro­duct do you hope to switch to once you run out of your current meds?


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Two topics: Let’s talk iodine, plus a UK lab will analyze Armour, says Sheila of TPA-UK!

iodine_atomI con­fess that I hated my Che­mistry class in high school, even if Mr. Bowen tried to make it inte­res­ting and favo­red the girls over the boys in class.  But lo and behold, one of those ele­ments on the Perio­dic Table ended up having a sig­ni­fi­cant role in all or our lives as thy­roid patients: iodine.

Iodine can be found in every inch your body, but is espe­cially pre­va­lent in your thy­roid, which makes it an inte­res­ting ele­ment for those of us with thy­roid disease.  The active thy­roid hor­mone T3 (triio­dothy­ro­nine) is made up of three iodine mole­cu­les, and the sto­rage hor­mone T4 (thy­ro­xine) has four iodine mole­cu­les. In fact, without pro­per amounts of iodine, your thy­roid wouldn’t even func­tion well.

An opti­mal amount of iodine has also been shown to improve breast health, pro­vide can­cer pro­tec­tion, remove toxins like Bro­mide, fluo­ride, mer­cury etc…and in some cases, has hel­ped thy­roid patients either lower their dose, or even get off thy­roid treat­ment. Thy­roid patient Diana tells of get­ting off thy­roid treat­ment due to iodine on the Sto­ries of Others page.

***This Thurs­day eve­ning on the Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on TalkShoe, we’ll have guest Stepha­nie Buist, owner of the Yahoo group Iodine and a 9-year thy­roid can­cer sur­vi­vor who strongly feels iodine has been a huge fac­tor.   We’ll explore how much iodine a per­son needs, the loa­ding loa­ding test, the best sour­ces of iodine sup­ple­men­ta­tion, whether you need iodine, as well as con­tro­ver­sies with iodine use, inc­lu­ding Hashi­mo­tos disease or bad reac­tions.  Times for the call are 6 pm Paci­fic, 7 pm Moun­tain, 8 pm Cen­tral and 9 pm Eas­tern. You can lis­ten right on your com­pu­ter, or call to talk directly to Stepha­nie and Janie. Join us!

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ArmourtabletsUGH-1Sheila Tur­ner of TPA-UK  (Thy­roid Patient Advocacy-UK www.tpa-uk.org.uk) is star­ting the ball rolling on something very inte­res­ting:  they have con­tac­ted a lab in the UK who will do a qua­li­ta­tive analy­sis of the old Armour vs. the new refor­mu­la­ted Armour to get a break­down of the ingre­dients, and poten­tially give us an idea WHAT is cau­sing thy­roid patients to have a return of their hypothy­roid symp­toms since Forest refor­mu­la­ted Armour in 2009.

Howe­ver, says Sheila, this will cost in the region of £600 to £700 (appro­xi­ma­tely $1100).  Says Sheila, “If there are enough patients who are willing and able to help raise the fun­ding requi­red by giving wha­te­ver we can afford, we could finally get the ans­wer as to which chan­ges have been made in the new for­mula and whether this inc­lu­des chan­ges in the active (as some have sug­ges­ted) and the inac­tive ingre­dients and put this baby to rest once and for all.”

You can con­tact Sheila at the above web­site and make a pledge.  As I write this, they have already have £100 pledged.

UPDATE: Stepha­nie above has agree to be the ‘Pledge and Money Collec­tor’ for the lab work nee­ded to analyze the old vs new Armour . She can be con­tac­ted at ladybugsandbees@sbcglobal.net


  • Want to keep track of these “fringe web­site” blog posts? ;-) Curious what’s on Janie’s mind? Use the noti­fi­ca­tion on the lower left of the links, called a News­let­ter, or an RSS Feed.
  • The extre­mely hip and sophis­ti­ca­ted STTM t-shirts are half price! Great BUMPER STICKERS, too. Spread the word – YOU may make a dif­fe­rence in someone’s life.
  • Check out the patient-to-patient book with even more detail (and which doc­tors seem to res­pect more than websites).
  • Need to unders­tand all your best options for thy­roid treat­ment? Go here.
  • Keep infor­med of each live Thy­roid Patient Com­mu­nity Call on Talkshoe by sig­ning up as a follo­wer.
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